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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 408583" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Janet you made a very valid point. When such points are made by someone who was a victim of abuse, the public really needs to sit up and take notice. </p><p></p><p>First parents were made to believe disciplining their kids was wrong and that cps would remove them. Then kids were taught the same things. Now it's teachers being told they aren't allowed to discipline students. </p><p></p><p>I'll never forget the day easy child came home from either kindergarden or 1st grade and told me I'd better not ever spank her again or she'd call the cops. At that point in time the child had possibly received 2 spankings, I think in her whole childhood a total of 5 maybe. I looked her dead in the eye and told her the day she did that she'd better pack her clothes because she would no longer be living with our family. I meant it. Her statement rubbed me totally wrong and rankled down to my marrow. I'll never forget it because my voice came out so quiet, hard and cold it made her cry. I even handed her the phone and told her to make the call. It made such an impact on Travis and Nichole who witnessed it, that the subject was never brought up again.</p><p></p><p>I will say that one of the reasons it rankled me so badly was just a couple of years before that I'd turned my life upside down to protect this same child......worked with cps in 3 states to do it.......and knew the garbage they were feeding her was a bald faced lie. Not that I'd have fallen for it to begin with. </p><p></p><p>I think what upsets me so much I guess is their excuses for doing such things is always to "protect". Hog wash. I came from an extremely abusive environment and even I managed to realize the importance of discipline........and that there is an<strong> enormous</strong> difference between discipline and abuse.</p><p></p><p>I'm also not one to excuse behavior simply because of someone's background or illness. Bottom line we all have a choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 408583, member: 84"] Janet you made a very valid point. When such points are made by someone who was a victim of abuse, the public really needs to sit up and take notice. First parents were made to believe disciplining their kids was wrong and that cps would remove them. Then kids were taught the same things. Now it's teachers being told they aren't allowed to discipline students. I'll never forget the day easy child came home from either kindergarden or 1st grade and told me I'd better not ever spank her again or she'd call the cops. At that point in time the child had possibly received 2 spankings, I think in her whole childhood a total of 5 maybe. I looked her dead in the eye and told her the day she did that she'd better pack her clothes because she would no longer be living with our family. I meant it. Her statement rubbed me totally wrong and rankled down to my marrow. I'll never forget it because my voice came out so quiet, hard and cold it made her cry. I even handed her the phone and told her to make the call. It made such an impact on Travis and Nichole who witnessed it, that the subject was never brought up again. I will say that one of the reasons it rankled me so badly was just a couple of years before that I'd turned my life upside down to protect this same child......worked with cps in 3 states to do it.......and knew the garbage they were feeding her was a bald faced lie. Not that I'd have fallen for it to begin with. I think what upsets me so much I guess is their excuses for doing such things is always to "protect". Hog wash. I came from an extremely abusive environment and even I managed to realize the importance of discipline........and that there is an[B] enormous[/B] difference between discipline and abuse. I'm also not one to excuse behavior simply because of someone's background or illness. Bottom line we all have a choice. [/QUOTE]
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