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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 730765" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Every day I happily go to socialize and mentor at a place called the Clubhouse, a very lively and busy and social place for people who suffer/suffered from mental illness. In general we just have fun with the strong bond of understanding mental illness and also for many substance abuse. Many have been serious addicts.</p><p></p><p>It is very open and we are there for one another and the older and more recovered folks by default acquire those who listen to learn. Most members work. Very few dont. Many use services to get jobs and housing.</p><p></p><p>The other day my favorite member showed up, a 59 year old man, doing well now, but he had been a drug addict, homeless, a person who let others crash in his apartment when they had nowhere to go....he is an advocate now. He is a nice man doing great. Busy. Has a business, albeit a small one. Rides his bike even in the winter. Doesn't drive but is determined to get where he has to go. Very smart.</p><p></p><p>I told him how my heart bleeds for the mentally ill homeless. He agreed but he had a first hand take on it and told me that some people just WILL NOT follow any rulesrrand he has sern it, so they are thrown out of helpful shelters and rehabs ( he got clean in a rehab and, like me, had no family help...he was just motivated to stop the drugs). He is mentally ill. We all are there, some in better shape than others.</p><p></p><p>It was his opinion that some people refuse to follow any rules or get help and he feels sorry for them, but also feels it is their own faults. He says although he does feel bad a part of him feels less kind as they have the same chances he had and decide to blow them.</p><p></p><p>Sounds a lot like us here, right?</p><p></p><p>He never heard of this site, never will. I was surprised that his experiences on the streets of his city and rehab lead him right back to where many of us are (thought wise) here on this forum. This is not a parent. This is an addict with mental health issues who struggles to adult and does it and in the process helps others.</p><p></p><p>This is not unusual thinking amongst us who do well. There is a definite mindset that does well and a mindset that doesn't. Most of these clubhouse members do well, mental illness considered, and are getting help willingly. And are productive. And clean of drugs. Case Managers help with those on Disability.</p><p></p><p>It is up to us to get better. A serious thought disorder like schizophrenia can hold us back, but anything else, be it drug addiction or depression, can be overcome if we want it to. And those that don't want to, won't. It's a matter of will to get healthy. </p><p></p><p>The more I hang with this cool family of mine and see and hear their accomplishments, all of them fighting different mental illnesses, few living with Mom, the more I feel we can all make it but we have to comply with rules and push hard. If we don't it in my opinion is not mental illness but a desire to stay in a bad place that hold us back. Mental illness doesn't stop us from following basic rules except schizophrenia. </p><p></p><p>This is my experience and opinion, more strongly than ever. i see people every day who I call friends and family and who overcome depression, anxiety + substance abuse to be independent and working and (shock) most young ones like and speak well of their parents although few live with them. </p><p></p><p>I send everybody love and light from the great universe of God. I hope your love one realizes that both mental illness and substance abuse does not doom you. Chronically I'll people work and thrive...people with MS, fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease, even cancer. The only person who can doom somebody is that person himself.</p><p></p><p>There is no excuse not to try.</p><p></p><p>Love and light.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 730765, member: 1550"] Every day I happily go to socialize and mentor at a place called the Clubhouse, a very lively and busy and social place for people who suffer/suffered from mental illness. In general we just have fun with the strong bond of understanding mental illness and also for many substance abuse. Many have been serious addicts. It is very open and we are there for one another and the older and more recovered folks by default acquire those who listen to learn. Most members work. Very few dont. Many use services to get jobs and housing. The other day my favorite member showed up, a 59 year old man, doing well now, but he had been a drug addict, homeless, a person who let others crash in his apartment when they had nowhere to go....he is an advocate now. He is a nice man doing great. Busy. Has a business, albeit a small one. Rides his bike even in the winter. Doesn't drive but is determined to get where he has to go. Very smart. I told him how my heart bleeds for the mentally ill homeless. He agreed but he had a first hand take on it and told me that some people just WILL NOT follow any rulesrrand he has sern it, so they are thrown out of helpful shelters and rehabs ( he got clean in a rehab and, like me, had no family help...he was just motivated to stop the drugs). He is mentally ill. We all are there, some in better shape than others. It was his opinion that some people refuse to follow any rules or get help and he feels sorry for them, but also feels it is their own faults. He says although he does feel bad a part of him feels less kind as they have the same chances he had and decide to blow them. Sounds a lot like us here, right? He never heard of this site, never will. I was surprised that his experiences on the streets of his city and rehab lead him right back to where many of us are (thought wise) here on this forum. This is not a parent. This is an addict with mental health issues who struggles to adult and does it and in the process helps others. This is not unusual thinking amongst us who do well. There is a definite mindset that does well and a mindset that doesn't. Most of these clubhouse members do well, mental illness considered, and are getting help willingly. And are productive. And clean of drugs. Case Managers help with those on Disability. It is up to us to get better. A serious thought disorder like schizophrenia can hold us back, but anything else, be it drug addiction or depression, can be overcome if we want it to. And those that don't want to, won't. It's a matter of will to get healthy. The more I hang with this cool family of mine and see and hear their accomplishments, all of them fighting different mental illnesses, few living with Mom, the more I feel we can all make it but we have to comply with rules and push hard. If we don't it in my opinion is not mental illness but a desire to stay in a bad place that hold us back. Mental illness doesn't stop us from following basic rules except schizophrenia. This is my experience and opinion, more strongly than ever. i see people every day who I call friends and family and who overcome depression, anxiety + substance abuse to be independent and working and (shock) most young ones like and speak well of their parents although few live with them. I send everybody love and light from the great universe of God. I hope your love one realizes that both mental illness and substance abuse does not doom you. Chronically I'll people work and thrive...people with MS, fibromyalgia, Crohn's Disease, even cancer. The only person who can doom somebody is that person himself. There is no excuse not to try. Love and light. [/QUOTE]
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