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<blockquote data-quote="Martie" data-source="post: 134782" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>Hello,</p><p></p><p>Due Process is stressful and expensive. Try to do something else first because IT MIGHT WORK and if it doesn't, at least you tried, and that will be in the record.</p><p></p><p>I did a study on this site in which 9 (of 23) parents who have been to Due Process (not including me of course--so there are 24) and I hope to have the results posted soon. Dreamer's account is a little worse than some, but not by much.</p><p></p><p>I went to DP in IL WITH an attorney which is interesting because I am an advocate, and still there was a high level of perjury, verbal abuse of me at the hearing, violation of the law, and the H.O. was openly hostile because ex-difficult child didn't "fit the mold" (How could he be in Sp Ed and need German and AP math?--very inconvenient.) I was appalled because I was also a H.O. in IL for 10 years but quit in disgust.</p><p></p><p>We lost on a very narrow technicality with the H.O. noting that (due to time line violations) the whole case was history, and we had already sought and gotten private services so what was the problem? Check the cost of EGBS and you will know.... </p><p></p><p>Here is the most important issue to think about in my opinion: in going to DP, I KNEW I would never return my ex-difficult child to public school and did not. He graduated from a private conservatory high school...It is very different to be dependent on the SD after losing at DP. I got a taste of this because I was ordered to attend an IEP meeting to "return" ex-difficult child to public school, because that was "ordered"...The meeting took 3 hours because I held them to EVERY legal requirement including, at that time, that all members be present all the time (no longer required.) In the end, I refused to agree to the placement because it was INAPPROPRIATE. However, this was pre IDEA 2004, so they did no need my signature. At the time, ex-difficult child was 15-7 and I suggested that the director of SP ED who was not nice (psychiatric diagnosis I've heard all over the professional community could be supplied but I won't) call DCFS and see how they will treat the "truancy" of a kid this close to 16 whose mother is a certified EBD teacher in IL. HOWEVER, I also never withdrew difficult child from the SD and every time they tried to do that, I sent a certified letter reminding them that if his father and I so chose, he could be their student again the next DAY, so just leave it be... The following year, there was a new director of Sp ED and she did all she could to KEEP ex-difficult child in his private school including offering tutoring when he was failing English...</p><p></p><p>It was extremely aversive, and I would never have returned ex-difficult child to these folks: if private school had not been an option, we would have had to move. It was also not good because I had another child in this high school doing very well and she feared retaliation. I do not think that happened, but just the fear is stressful and one more way a easy child pays a price for a difficult child sib.</p><p></p><p>Whatever you do, you have my sympathy that you are in this situation. It is such a poor way for SDs to spend public money.</p><p></p><p>Martie</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martie, post: 134782, member: 284"] Hello, Due Process is stressful and expensive. Try to do something else first because IT MIGHT WORK and if it doesn't, at least you tried, and that will be in the record. I did a study on this site in which 9 (of 23) parents who have been to Due Process (not including me of course--so there are 24) and I hope to have the results posted soon. Dreamer's account is a little worse than some, but not by much. I went to DP in IL WITH an attorney which is interesting because I am an advocate, and still there was a high level of perjury, verbal abuse of me at the hearing, violation of the law, and the H.O. was openly hostile because ex-difficult child didn't "fit the mold" (How could he be in Sp Ed and need German and AP math?--very inconvenient.) I was appalled because I was also a H.O. in IL for 10 years but quit in disgust. We lost on a very narrow technicality with the H.O. noting that (due to time line violations) the whole case was history, and we had already sought and gotten private services so what was the problem? Check the cost of EGBS and you will know.... Here is the most important issue to think about in my opinion: in going to DP, I KNEW I would never return my ex-difficult child to public school and did not. He graduated from a private conservatory high school...It is very different to be dependent on the SD after losing at DP. I got a taste of this because I was ordered to attend an IEP meeting to "return" ex-difficult child to public school, because that was "ordered"...The meeting took 3 hours because I held them to EVERY legal requirement including, at that time, that all members be present all the time (no longer required.) In the end, I refused to agree to the placement because it was INAPPROPRIATE. However, this was pre IDEA 2004, so they did no need my signature. At the time, ex-difficult child was 15-7 and I suggested that the director of SP ED who was not nice (psychiatric diagnosis I've heard all over the professional community could be supplied but I won't) call DCFS and see how they will treat the "truancy" of a kid this close to 16 whose mother is a certified EBD teacher in IL. HOWEVER, I also never withdrew difficult child from the SD and every time they tried to do that, I sent a certified letter reminding them that if his father and I so chose, he could be their student again the next DAY, so just leave it be... The following year, there was a new director of Sp ED and she did all she could to KEEP ex-difficult child in his private school including offering tutoring when he was failing English... It was extremely aversive, and I would never have returned ex-difficult child to these folks: if private school had not been an option, we would have had to move. It was also not good because I had another child in this high school doing very well and she feared retaliation. I do not think that happened, but just the fear is stressful and one more way a easy child pays a price for a difficult child sib. Whatever you do, you have my sympathy that you are in this situation. It is such a poor way for SDs to spend public money. Martie [/QUOTE]
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