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Since my Grandfather was a major element in this conversation, I wanted to share that I just found out 17 minutes ago that my grandfather has cancer......they found cancer cells or whatever in his urine (cytology). He is 88 years old and is refusing any futher investigation or treatment because he thinks he is too old and no treatment could help him. My grandmother, my uncle and my mother are waitng until he calms down to see if he will change mind. I just told my daughter, my Grandfather was her father figure growing up, as well as mine. I don't think she is even digesting the news or believes it yet. I want to know what kind of cancer he has and how bad it is but he doesn't want to know. I don't blame him but not knowing is very distressing for me and will be for my daughter to. So now we got my cousin , his grandson, dying and now he is dying. Dear God.


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