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<blockquote data-quote="HeadSpinning" data-source="post: 452484" data-attributes="member: 12590"><p>As far as whether or not he was stable on his medications, who knows? He was diagnosed at age 17 and seemed to be fine, though he didn't seem to be all that wrong in the first place. Frankly, I'm not a big believer in the copious amounts of disorders that are present in 2011, but weren't present 30 years ago. I believe that a much larger contributor to the way kids are today is the fact that they have no fear on consequence. When I was a kid, if I acted up, I got my butt whooped. Same for every kid I knew. So many kids that are now diagnosed with various disorders and put on medications were righted by an occasional butt whopping years ago.</p><p></p><p>But that's neither here nor there. I can tell you that there was never a hand raised against this child until the day he blackened his mother's eye at 19 years old. I can also tell you that he never had a fear of consequence, not that he ever really needed it. Again, he was a good kid until he went off to college.</p><p></p><p>I don't believe he ever tried to substitute recreational drugs for his prescribed medications. He always had access to his prescriptions, of course, and I think it was more the lure of the party scene that had his dabbling with pot, then Xanax, then crushing and snorting Xanax, then a myriad of other things to the point that he's now reached the stages of snorting crushed Opana pills and cutting pieces of his grandmother's Fentanyl patches and putting them on his gums. </p><p></p><p>Maybe I'm being overly optimistic/idealistic when I think that if we could just seclude him from his grandparents, that he could come out of this. His grandparents are the epitome of enablers and apologists and there's absolutely no question that they're doing so much harm to the kid. We can't force them to attend the family counseling sessions at his rehab facility, which is a dual treatment facility that will treat both his addictions and his bi-polar, and they've made it clear they won't attend. But, no doubt, they'll welcome him home with their arms and wallets open. </p><p></p><p>We can't control what they do, but we hope to have some influence on what he does. We've made it clear, and I'm sure this will be reinforced in treatment, that he's going to have to make some very tough choices in order to maintain sobriety. But with a girlfriend who's just a big a user as he is and with three grandparents who will enable him to the nth degree, what's the chance that he'll really do what's right? I'm thinking he's up against an unwinnable fight here and it breaks my heart. </p><p></p><p>Is anyone here aware of any legal recourses to keep the grandparents from enabling him? If we make life difficult enough on them, or at least make interfering in his well-being difficult for them, they'll back off quickly. Part of me wishes we could have him here at home for a short time after rehab, but there's no telling what he's going to be like or what effect this will have on our 12-year-old daughter. That's too big a risk, in our opinion. It's like we have to live the life of a drug addict even though the only drugs we take are the occasional Tylenol or Advil for headaches!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeadSpinning, post: 452484, member: 12590"] As far as whether or not he was stable on his medications, who knows? He was diagnosed at age 17 and seemed to be fine, though he didn't seem to be all that wrong in the first place. Frankly, I'm not a big believer in the copious amounts of disorders that are present in 2011, but weren't present 30 years ago. I believe that a much larger contributor to the way kids are today is the fact that they have no fear on consequence. When I was a kid, if I acted up, I got my butt whooped. Same for every kid I knew. So many kids that are now diagnosed with various disorders and put on medications were righted by an occasional butt whopping years ago. But that's neither here nor there. I can tell you that there was never a hand raised against this child until the day he blackened his mother's eye at 19 years old. I can also tell you that he never had a fear of consequence, not that he ever really needed it. Again, he was a good kid until he went off to college. I don't believe he ever tried to substitute recreational drugs for his prescribed medications. He always had access to his prescriptions, of course, and I think it was more the lure of the party scene that had his dabbling with pot, then Xanax, then crushing and snorting Xanax, then a myriad of other things to the point that he's now reached the stages of snorting crushed Opana pills and cutting pieces of his grandmother's Fentanyl patches and putting them on his gums. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic/idealistic when I think that if we could just seclude him from his grandparents, that he could come out of this. His grandparents are the epitome of enablers and apologists and there's absolutely no question that they're doing so much harm to the kid. We can't force them to attend the family counseling sessions at his rehab facility, which is a dual treatment facility that will treat both his addictions and his bi-polar, and they've made it clear they won't attend. But, no doubt, they'll welcome him home with their arms and wallets open. We can't control what they do, but we hope to have some influence on what he does. We've made it clear, and I'm sure this will be reinforced in treatment, that he's going to have to make some very tough choices in order to maintain sobriety. But with a girlfriend who's just a big a user as he is and with three grandparents who will enable him to the nth degree, what's the chance that he'll really do what's right? I'm thinking he's up against an unwinnable fight here and it breaks my heart. Is anyone here aware of any legal recourses to keep the grandparents from enabling him? If we make life difficult enough on them, or at least make interfering in his well-being difficult for them, they'll back off quickly. Part of me wishes we could have him here at home for a short time after rehab, but there's no telling what he's going to be like or what effect this will have on our 12-year-old daughter. That's too big a risk, in our opinion. It's like we have to live the life of a drug addict even though the only drugs we take are the occasional Tylenol or Advil for headaches! [/QUOTE]
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