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WTF? difficult child's sponsor begins to seem really shady
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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 611396" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>MWM: While not wanting to be too clear about my difficult child's current country (but Europe, central, not the richest one but neither extremely poor, has both richer and poorer countries nearby and people cross the borders for many things, for example these two groups difficult child has attended have been in two different countries) or my own (again Europe, north, rich by many standards), I have to press, but I seriously doubt that behaviour of this sponsor is in any way a norm in GA or other twelve steps groups around here. There are some differences between principles of GA and other twelve steps groups, for example with GA they do often have an opportunity to work in much smaller and more confidential situation (even one on one or new member and couple experienced members) with more personal financial stuff and work out how to solve their financial situation. That is because of nature of addiction and more concrete and personal advice is often needed to work out the financials. But I'm absolutely sure this sponsor's behaviour is not what is the norm or expectation for GA group.</p><p></p><p>It's just that it was really an only available GA group for difficult child so he couldn't change, that could had been advisable otherwise. So no need for anyone to stay away from European gA groups because of my son's bad experience. Could had happened anywhere, because people are people. Not likely to happen that often even in Central European GA groups. But can happen in any establishment that offers help for addiction. In self-help group or professional setting. While absolutely not a reason not to try, something one should be vigilant about if things seem to turn iffy. I for example do plan to have a chat with difficult child and also easy child about certain things to remember to keep themselves more safe. Things and information not to share, keeping your eyes open for certain red flags etc. There was enough of those red flags early on with this and difficult child should had been more careful.</p><p></p><p>Of course for my kid it seems that even good GA group wouldn't had been that good fit, because his rebelliousness, atheism and the simple fact that he isn't at the point of the recovery where he would had found them useful and he already had a little different, and working for him, tool kit to handle his addiction than the one GA promotes. And that being around so much talk about gambling actually made him think of gambling and worsened his urges. But these are all personal and situational reasons. True to my son at this point of time but most likely not true to the next person.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 611396, member: 14557"] MWM: While not wanting to be too clear about my difficult child's current country (but Europe, central, not the richest one but neither extremely poor, has both richer and poorer countries nearby and people cross the borders for many things, for example these two groups difficult child has attended have been in two different countries) or my own (again Europe, north, rich by many standards), I have to press, but I seriously doubt that behaviour of this sponsor is in any way a norm in GA or other twelve steps groups around here. There are some differences between principles of GA and other twelve steps groups, for example with GA they do often have an opportunity to work in much smaller and more confidential situation (even one on one or new member and couple experienced members) with more personal financial stuff and work out how to solve their financial situation. That is because of nature of addiction and more concrete and personal advice is often needed to work out the financials. But I'm absolutely sure this sponsor's behaviour is not what is the norm or expectation for GA group. It's just that it was really an only available GA group for difficult child so he couldn't change, that could had been advisable otherwise. So no need for anyone to stay away from European gA groups because of my son's bad experience. Could had happened anywhere, because people are people. Not likely to happen that often even in Central European GA groups. But can happen in any establishment that offers help for addiction. In self-help group or professional setting. While absolutely not a reason not to try, something one should be vigilant about if things seem to turn iffy. I for example do plan to have a chat with difficult child and also easy child about certain things to remember to keep themselves more safe. Things and information not to share, keeping your eyes open for certain red flags etc. There was enough of those red flags early on with this and difficult child should had been more careful. Of course for my kid it seems that even good GA group wouldn't had been that good fit, because his rebelliousness, atheism and the simple fact that he isn't at the point of the recovery where he would had found them useful and he already had a little different, and working for him, tool kit to handle his addiction than the one GA promotes. And that being around so much talk about gambling actually made him think of gambling and worsened his urges. But these are all personal and situational reasons. True to my son at this point of time but most likely not true to the next person. [/QUOTE]
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