But then we tried to set boundaries and Kay told us she would rather be homeless than go for any type of therapy. And she clearly means it by how she is behaving and has behaved. It was her father and I who couldn't bear for her to be homeless so we didn't allow it. Kay would have done it rather than go into residential or even see a therapist. Sometimes even our toughest bargaining doesn't work at all. Have you ever actually been able to threaten your child into going into residential or to work or to live a conventional life? If so I would like to know how you did it. Nothing worked for us,not even threatening to stop helping with her homes or apartments or cars. My daughter needs to win. It means more to her to not do what we want than to risk giving up a comfortable life. From reading here, it seems most of them are like Kay. Nobody except RN has managed to scare their child straight. Homelessness doesn't scare them enough to comply with our wishes. So what does? I am very open to all suggestions. Maybe there is something i haven't tried yet. Thanks for speaking up. Today is a hard day for me. Not sure why.