Another update...I have not responded to gfg32's emails and they have slowed down considerably. He still emails my 84 (85?) year old mom - the person who has helped him the most financially through the years. From the input I share with her (mostly found on this forum), she has stopped reading many of the emails he sends. She emailed just a bit ago that she has two emails from gfg32 sitting in her inbox. The subject line of one of them : Well, What do you want me to do? Kill myself? She said she will probably read it and thinks she should send him money so he can get hotel room for another week. What does it look like/sound like to you? Should I email him a suicide prevention hotline #? A list of resources in his area? He surely knows about suicide hotlines and the resources, and email from me of any kind will certainly unleash anewed hatefulness from him. But, I want him to know I do care. On the other hand, i don't want to honor games just because he wants motel room $$. I think it is a game, but could never live with myself if it was not and contact from me might have helped. (Keeping in mind, he has been very hateful to husband and me over the last few months...) It seems odd that going to a shelter would provoke the idea of taking your life, but I guess it's more than that....a series of bad choices over the last year or so. (Lots of bad choices over many years, actually, but he had seemingly put things together for awhile a couple years ago). You guys predicted he might threaten suicide. As I told my mom, it doesn't sound like a threat (guess I'll know more if/when she reads the email) and that he is just trying to shake her to her core...and get money for the hotel room...until he asks again next week. He didn't email this to his dad or me. Seems if he was really that desperate, he might. I don't know. Seems like every time the dust settles just a tiny bit, boom! Every time i think I might be getting a handle on this, well....it turns out I really don't. As is being discussed in the thread about assuming too much, the suicide fear is the scariest. And, I totally agree we cannot stop them, but do husband and I "do" anything at this point? I am rambling again...Gfg32 has never tried this before. ever.