Measles Persistence Confirmed in Some IBD, Autistic Enterocolitis Patients

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June 20, 2000

Measles Persistence Confirmed with Autistic Enterocolitis
Measles Persistence Confirmed in Some IBD, Autistic Enterocolitis Patients

Japanese and UK-based scientists have detected measles virus sequences
in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) from patients with Crohn's
disease, ulcerative colitis and autistic enterocolitis - the recently
described syndrome purportedly associated with measles-mumps-rubella
vaccination.
Dr. Hisashi Kawashima from Tokyo Medical University and colleagues
there and in London explain that previous studies have suggested that
measles virus may be present in the intestine of Crohn's disease patients.
They also allude to the reported association between measles-mumps-rubella
(MMR) vaccination and some cases of autistic enterocolitis, a syndrome of
gastrointestinal symptoms and developmental regression in children leading
to autism. Numerous other reports, however, have discounted that
association.
In the present study, the authors examined PBMCs from patients with
these disorders, in order to determine whether any detected measles viruses
were derived from wild-type or vaccine strains.
The study team reports in the April issue of Digestive Diseases and
Sciences, that "one of eight patients with Crohn's disease, one of three
patients with ulcerative colitis and three of nine patents with autism, were
positive [for measles virus sequences]." In contrast, measles virus was not
detected in any control patients.
According to the paper, measles sequences isolated from Crohn's
patients were characteristic of wild-type strains, whereas those from
patients with ulcerative colitis and autism had characteristics of vaccine
strains. The study investigators note that these "results were concordant
with the exposure history of patients."
In an interview with Reuters Health, Dr. Kawashima said that "because
measles vaccine and sporadic strains were detected in several immunologic
diseases, the implications of our study are uncertain." He added that
"whilst the detection of measles viruses in Crohn's disease are not
important, if further cases of autistic enterocolitis are detected after MMR
vaccination, our study will be very significant."
At an April hearing of the House Government Reform Committee, the
National Network for Immunization Information stated that there is no
scientific evidence to suggest that autism is associated with childhood
vaccination. Dig Dis Sci 2000;45:723-729.
 

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Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to post this and all the other information you bring to the board.
 

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WOW, gotta love that MMR shot huh!!
Just like those guys were saying in the senate hearings.. I sure wish people would start listening to them!

Thanks!!!

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Currently on a new natural treatment (wish me luck)
off ALL medications!!
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probably still be a dog. <Sigh!> There's so little hope for advancement."
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you are welcome.
I think they need to figure these things out. Find out who may have this type of problem, who might be susceptable to other infections, toxins and whatever else is going on.

I received some other info today that is in regards to the vaccine preservative, Thimerosol. Now I am suspicious about whether this could play a role. I am extremely allergic to this, but never knew it was in these vaccines. The way I found out was when I put things in or near my eyes that had this ingredient. I would end up with major eye infections.
Cheryl
 

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I have heard alot of thermersol allergies. I think I have a slight allergy to it? I went to disposable lenses so I wouldnt have to use the cleaners.
And I belive my husband said he was allergic to it..
I cant belive they'd use that in vaccines cuz many people are allergic to that!! Makes you wonder!!!

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7 yr old girl Bipolar/ADD/ODD
Currently on a new natural treatment (wish me luck)
off ALL medications!!
Fav. Funny quote- "Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll
probably still be a dog. <Sigh!> There's so little hope for advancement."
- Snoopy

"With out God, my life would fall apart"
 

Guest
Worse than allergies is that thermosal contains mercury which is extremely neurotoxic to infants and children.
 

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Bookmom- That is actually what the info was about. I am wondering if it is playing a double role as toxin and allergen. There seem to be alot of people with metal allergies. Here it is if anyone is interested.

Alert on Flawed Mercury Study /Autism: A Unique Type of Mercury Poisoning

[From Teresa Binstock, autism researcher.]

On June 21-22, 2000, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization
Practices (ACIP) will be meeting in Atlanta. Vaccine-preservative Thimerosal
and its ethylmercury is on the agenda, as is the whitewash "study" hastily
prepared as Davis RL et al, whose authors include a primary participant in
early-infant injections of ethylmercury -- eg, the early hepB.
Letters to the ACIP have been prepared by each of the
vaccinal-mercury/autism co-authors.
Mine is herein below (with a few typos corrected). If you'd like a .doctor
format of the letter, please write me off-list and I'll e-send you a copy.
This post may be shared and reposted into other lists.
Perhaps a reporter or several can be encouraged to attend the Atlanta
conference, especially a reporter willing to peruse letters from the
autism/mercury co-authors plus from Susan Owens, as well as listening (with
a critical ear) to CDC pronouncements of the whitewash sort.
To: Members, ex officios, and liaisons June 19, 2000
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Centers for Disease Control; Atlanta GA USA
Fr: Teresa Binstock
Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy
Box 1788; Estes Park CO 80517 USA
re: vaccinal ethylmercury, Davis RL et al study, EPA's recommended mercury
level
I am a co-author of Bernard et al, a paper which identifies vaccinal
ethylmercury as etiologically significant in autism and other
neurodevelopmental syndromes [See accompanying article]. (1). Today I
comment upon the neurologic effects of thimerosal in vaccines given to
infants, toddlers, and elderly individuals during the last 60 years.
1. As you know, thimerosal is a vaccine preservative which is 49.7%
ethylmercury, a substance whose toxicity is similar to that of methylmercury
(2). As a result, and according to data in hundreds of published studies, a
preponderance of evidence indicates that (a) thimerosal causes neurologic
damage in susceptible infants and toddlers, and (b) the increasing rate of
autism during the last three decades (3) is likely to have been caused by
physicians who injected ethylmercury during vaccinations (1).
2. Since our paper was made public in early April, a CDC group led by
Robert L. Davis has enacted a large-scale thimerosal-study and has
distributed two summary versions (3-4). I would like to thank Dr. Davis and
his co-authors for initiating their study and would like to emphasize that
the Davis et al study contains several major errors. Furthermore, if and as
Davis et al correct those errors, the Davis et al data demonstrate that,
indeed, thimerosal injected into infants and toddlers is causing neurologic
problems such as autism and ADHD in susceptible individuals.
3. In 1997, the EPA offered a guideline for a "safe" level of organic
mercury and based that level on fetal effects via Iraqi mothers who had
ingested grain containing methylmercury. Importantly, and this is a very
important point, the EPA's "safe" level is too high and does not take into
account the fact that organic-mercury toxicity has a dose-effects
distribution whereby -- at low doses such as those in vaccines -- only a
small percentage of individuals will be affected. To protect susceptible
infants and toddlers and to correctly evaluate neurologic damage in children
already diagnosed with neurologic problems, the EPA's recommended level for
organic mercury must be lowered.
4. A primary flaw in current versions of Davis et al arises from their
use of the EPA "safe" level as a basis for interpreting Vaccine Safety Link
data (4-5). Importantly -- and this too is a very important point -- if
Davis et al correct their model in accord with a lower safe-limit for
ethylmercury, so as to account for bolus doses and susceptibility factors,
then the data in Davis et al are highly consistent with a conclusion that
thimerosal-induced neurologic effects have resulted in autism-spectrum and
associated disorders.
In closing, I offer three points:
First: My co-authors and I are preparing a detailed critique of flaws
in the first two drafts of RL Davis et al and shall share them with Dr.
Davis and his colleagues as soon as possible so that an article they might
submit (eg, to the journal Pediatrics) can be corrected before submission
and publication.
Second: As established in the initial Bernard et al review (1) and as
further documented in a condensed version I have submitted to our group and
provided to the ATSDR's Mike Allred and to the ACIP's Gloria Kovach: For a
number of genetic and non-genetic reasons, some infants and toddlers have
increased susceptibility to organic mercury compounds. As a result, the EPA'
s "safe" limit is dangerously high and ought be lowered.
Third: If Richard L. Davis et al consider bolus-dose effects and
susceptibility-factors and then revise their model accordingly, then their
conclusion will state that the Vaccine Safety Datalink data are consistent
with thimerosal's neurologic impairment of children. Safe chelation
therapies ought be initiated in affected children; delay in initiating such
therapies will potentiate increased neurotoxicity in susceptible children
whose brains already contain vaccinal ethylmercury from thimerosal.
Sincerely, Teresa Binstock
1. Autism: A Unique Type of Mercury Poisoning. Bernard S, Enayati A, Roger
H, Redwood L. Binstock T; April 3, 2000; revised May 17, 2000; originally
distributed via webpage of Cure Autism Now! Foundation,
2. Suzuki T, Takemoto TI, Kashiwazaki H, Miyama T. Metabolic fate of
ethylmercury salts in man and animal. Ch 12, p209-233 in: Mercury,
Mercurials, and Mercaptans. Miller MW, Clarkson TW, editors; Charles C.
Thomas, Springfield, 1973.
3. Yazbak FE. Autism `99, a national emergency. Internet publication 1999.
4. Davis RL, Verstraeten T, Gu D, DeStefano F, Thompson RS, Chen RT. Infant
exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines and risk for subsequent
neurologic and renal disease. AAP Conference webpage, May 2000.
5. Davis RL, Verstraeten T, DeStefano F, Gu D, Pless R, Chen R, Black S,
Shinefield H, Wise R, Ball L, Braun M. Risk of neurologic and renal
impairment associated with Thimerosal-containing vaccines. Study summary
with partial-data and statistics as presented to Bernard et al and others by
Martin Myers, MD, CDC offices in WashDC, June 15, 2000.
 

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Cheryl,

Fascinating and very disturbing.

My younger sister had an allergic reaction to Thimerasol many years ago when she first started using contact lenses, she's also an asthmatic so when Alex had a very localized allergic reaction to an immunization shot I immediately call the pediatrician. and sure enuf this is very, very common. So, what the heck are they using this stuff as a medium for??

One of husband's co-workers has an autistic son, he developed normally until he was about 14 months old. Just after the admin of MMR he first developed IBS and progressively lost the speech he'd learned and stopped walking. Though he is doing well now, with extensive Early Intervention, it's very sad for them. And I think they feel guilty because they're convinced the MMR caused the autism.

Thanks for all the research and information you provide.

Kathy



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9 yo son with-ADHD, ODD, Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD), Mood Disorder not otherwise specified, Learning Disability (LD) currently off all medications. husband for 11+ yrs.

"Don't worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum"
 

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I worry about Nate...he needs one more MMR shot and another thing I found out is it is grown on eggs which he is allergic too. So I am not sure what I should do. All confusing to me.

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Julie with son named Nathan which mean a gift from God. Some gifts are hard one. Is allergic to eighteen different airborne things including mold, some grass, trees and dogs.Also food allergies: milk, eggs, soy and yeast. Motto: There is light at the end of the tunnel, you just have to find the right tunnel.
Nathan my difficult child, diagnosis with a senory intergration disorder and disruptive disorder, no medications, now four yrs old. Ketcup makes him rage..now know because of the vingear in it (yeast)
Me, mom currently no medications. 39yrs old, an older mom but don't seem to be any wiser.
DEX: totally insane but thinks everyone esle is.
Wish some space alien's would come get him and take him back to their planet.(found out the aliens brought him here to get rid of him)
 

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Kathy- It seems like alot of us become sensitive to it. I found out the same way when I was wearing contacts. I then started to get the same infections from soft lenses when I switched. I guess my eyes became sensitive to anything foreign after the thimerosol.
Now this has come out about bowel disease and having measles, so it seems that both strains can cause problems in someone that is susceptable.

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Reuters Health - Early measles infection may increase the risk of
developing Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis, according to researchers
from the Mayo Clinic.
The report is the latest in a series of reports over the last few
years, previously reported by Reuters Health, which have either bolstered or
questioned the link between measles infection and inflammatory bowel
disease.
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Noting that others have found no difference in the rate of measles
infection in those diagnosed with inflammatory bowel disease, Dr. Pardi and
colleagues suggest that "infection before the development of full
immunological competence may lead to viral persistence." They also suggest
that other factors, such as infection with mumps virus, may contribute to
the development of inflammatory bowel disease.
The investigators also emphasized that their study did not consider
the effect of measles vaccination, and "unless more compelling data become
available to implicate measles vaccine as a risk factor for inflammatory
bowel disease, we fully support the current recommendation for universal
vaccination against measles."
Am J Gastroenterol 2000;95:1480-1485.

Julie-I know it worries you thinking about vaccines. I can't tell you what to do but I can tell you our peds opinions, if it helps. He doe's believe that most of them are important. The main things are to make sure the child has not been sick, that the immune system is not already really stressed. As far as egg is concerned, unless Nat has an anaphylactic type reaction, it would be the same as if he ate something he shouldn't. Dr G. has said that even though tests may show a reaction to egg, he doesn't remove it from the diet unless the child has eczema or other skin problems. In his experience he hasn't found it to be significant in the brain dysfunction. I hope this helps you in some way. We never are sure what to do and not do.

According to this they are planning to remove Thimerosol from the vaccines.

CDC Says Vaccine To Be Mercury-Free

[By Bob Groves of the Record Online of Bergen County, New Jersey,
Friday, June 16, 2000.]
"The Food and Drug Administration had ruled for years that thimerosal
was safe. Last year, however, the FDA recommended that thimerosal be
discontinued after finding that some infants might build up harmful levels
of ethyl mercury over time.
"Our goal is to [achieve] a thimerosal-free children's immunization
schedule by early 2001," said Glen Nowak, spokesman for the CDC immunization
program.
 

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The information on the vaccination stuff is too scant and politicized to know anything for sure. However, I do think we have gone overboard with the massive numbers of immunizations. I understand immunizing for horrible disease like polio, diphtheria, and tetanus. But we are now immunizing for routine childhood ailments that are rarely life threatening (measle, mumps, and rubells for instance or chickenpox-- I and every other person my age that I know had all of these as a child). I just don't think that we know enough to be doing so many vaccines or at least the ones that are for diseases that are almost universally self-limited should be optional. In other words, it should be mandatory to immunize for polio, but not for measles--up to the parents. Even though all kids in my day had these vaccines, we rarely heard of a learning disabled, ADD, or autistic child. Now, almost every boy on our street has a "diagnosis". (The rate of allergies and asthma is also skyrocketing. I sometimes wonder if the immune system needs to exercised with normal childhood infections in order for it not to get overactive and start churning out antibodies for asthma or allergies.) Something is certainly getting worse.
 

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I meant to say that even though in my day almost all children had the infection (not the vaccine) we rarely heard of kids with learning disabilites or with behavioral disorders.
 
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