Discussion in 'Substance Abuse' started by Wendy23, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. Wendy23

    Wendy23 Member

    Hi, I am asking for advice for my 24 year old adult son. He has came to me wanting help to go to an one year in house rehab. He is currently taking methadone and abusing other drugs. The problem is that rehabs will not take him while on methadone. Do you know of any places that will detox you from methadone? If he continues to go to the clinic and slowly lowers his amount without any inhouse support I am afraid he will continue to use other drugs and die. He needs impatient treatment! Any advice?

  2. comatheart

    comatheart Active Member

    I don't have any suggestions to offer you, hopefully others will. I just wanted to offer a virtual hug!
  3. toughlovin

    toughlovin Well-Known Member

    I think there are places that will do this.... does he have one in mind? I think it is going to take getting on the phone and calling different places which of course he should do. Does he have insurance? If he does call them and find out what places they will cover... I am sure they wont cover a year.... but recently my son was looking for a detox and we called our insurance and got their list of approved places... he got on the phone called many of them and found the place he is in now.
  4. InsaneCdn

    InsaneCdn Well-Known Member

    He is getting the methadone through a doctor. Can the doctor make any suggestions?
  5. GoingNorth

    GoingNorth Crazy Cat Lady

    From what I've read/heard, the withdrawal from methadone is harsher than that from heroin and takes longer.

    His best bet is to seek the advice of the clinic where he is getting the methadone.
  6. kkam0630

    kkam0630 New Member

    South Florida has many detox clinics that will detox people off of methadone. Some detox centers don't but some do. I went through the same thing your son is going through now. I suggest weaning off of the methadone to about 30 mg at least before entering a detox

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  7. DarkwingPsyduck

    DarkwingPsyduck Active Member

    How long has he been on methadone, and what is his dose? Is he going to a daily clinic, or is he given take homes?

    Methadone is a hell of a drug. When people first started using it to treat opiate addiction, it was intended to be long term. Sometimes permanent. It is so powerful, and the half life is so big that detoxing from it will always be more difficult than detoxing from other opiates. Be it oxycodone or heroin. It was relatively recently that people started using it as a taper drug, and not a replacement drug.

    Everything about it is strictly inferior to Suboxone. Which is what I used to get clean. Suboxone is designed for a gradual taper, and has the added benefit of closing off the mu receptors in the brain. It fills them and then closes them. What that means is that, while it is still active in your system, you cannot get high on other opiates. With a half life of more than 72 hours, it makes it so, just to get high once, one must go through severe withdrawal. It serves as another aversion. Methadone does not do the same. On the perfect dose, the patient will not get high from it, but taking more will make them high. And allows them to get high even after taking it. Which many addicts do. They stay on the methadone program every day just in case they cannot score.

    As far as getting him off methadone safely, it all depends on the length of the usage, the dose he is on, and his own body. No two opiate addicts are completely alike. That said, he may be in for more than he realizes. While not impossible by any means, he is going to experience severe withdrawal. For a long period. Will the clinic accept him if he were on Suboxone, instead? If doing a rehab doesn't pan out, my suggestion would be to switch to Suboxone, and follow a taper plan. For the most part, I was dropping dose about 25% every week or two. Until I got down to the really tiny doses, where 25% less is too much. At which point I just winged it. Took the tiny dose when I felt I needed to. Then I started the skipping dose process. Dose one day, skip next, dose again, skip next two days, dose again, skip 3 days, etc until it is over. Not only does it deal with the cravings very well, it will make using completely pointless while on it. He wont get high from it, or any other opiate.