KFld
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My gut instincts are pretty good about telling me when to get into alanon or as somebody called it alamom 
mode and now it's telling me to get into advocate mode.
We went to the outpatient clinic yesterday that is both a methadone and suboxone clinic. The way they say it works is you do an intake, the next day you go back to a 2:00 group and then if you show up for the group, the next day they will put you on the suboxone or methadone.
My son meets with someone yesterday and told her how he tried to get into detox/rehab over the weekend and couldn't and that my insurance will only cover outpatient treatment for opiates and also will only cover suboxone and not methadone. He told her he's homeless, but still has a job and he wants to straighten his life out and get clean before he loses all that he has left, which is his job and his car. For some reason she's telling him that she's not comfortable giving him the suboxone, and asked him why he doesn't do the methadone. He told her because my insurance pays for the suboxne and I can't afford the $40 a week out of pocket it would cost me for the methadone. Then I guess she made a comment about how it will cost a lot less then the drugs he's been buying. So she took the name of his last prescribing suboxone doctor and said she wants to get his records from her first before she decides whether to give him the suboxone or not and tells him to call at 2:30 yesterday afternoon and she will let him know if he should show up for the 2:00 group today, meaning if she says yes, he gets the suboxone tomorrow and if not, who knows what. He called, left a message and she never returned his call, so he has no clue today what he is supposed to be doing.
I'm picking him up at 9:30 and I'm bringing him back there and he is going to walk in and ask to speak to her again and if she doesn't give him an answer, I'm going to ask to speak to her. This kid is screaming for help and can't get it. I don't understand why she would say he can pay for the methadone, but can't have the suboxone that my insurance covers. They both do the same thing, so either you believe he wants to help himself and are going to treat him, or you aren't. Do they make more money off the cash they get for the methadone then they would off the suboxone my insurance covers. She said she isn't comfortable because he can't even give her an address where he lives. Hellooooo, he doesn't live anywhere and needs to keep his job so he can live somewhere!!!
he said she made comments about not knowing if she believes he really wants to do this and she thinks he might just be trying to get high. He told her he wants to come to meetings everyday and do whatever it takes and then move into a sober house. She told him nobody will take him into a soberhouse on suboxone. She is totally wrong because I found places on line that say they take methadone and suboxone users.
If they can't help him I don't know where else to take him!! When somebody actually wants help it shouldn't be this difficult. If she's afraid he's going to sell the suboxone because it's a prescription he's going to tell her he'll come there everyday and have someone give it to him like the methadone.
Oh and if he can come to the 2:00 group today he also needs to come in tomorrow sick in order for them to give him the suboxone I guess to prove he hasn't used, but he'll never get through work tonight with nothing in his system. What a viscious cycle!!
Wish me luck. I'll let you all know how it goes!!
mode and now it's telling me to get into advocate mode.We went to the outpatient clinic yesterday that is both a methadone and suboxone clinic. The way they say it works is you do an intake, the next day you go back to a 2:00 group and then if you show up for the group, the next day they will put you on the suboxone or methadone.
My son meets with someone yesterday and told her how he tried to get into detox/rehab over the weekend and couldn't and that my insurance will only cover outpatient treatment for opiates and also will only cover suboxone and not methadone. He told her he's homeless, but still has a job and he wants to straighten his life out and get clean before he loses all that he has left, which is his job and his car. For some reason she's telling him that she's not comfortable giving him the suboxone, and asked him why he doesn't do the methadone. He told her because my insurance pays for the suboxne and I can't afford the $40 a week out of pocket it would cost me for the methadone. Then I guess she made a comment about how it will cost a lot less then the drugs he's been buying. So she took the name of his last prescribing suboxone doctor and said she wants to get his records from her first before she decides whether to give him the suboxone or not and tells him to call at 2:30 yesterday afternoon and she will let him know if he should show up for the 2:00 group today, meaning if she says yes, he gets the suboxone tomorrow and if not, who knows what. He called, left a message and she never returned his call, so he has no clue today what he is supposed to be doing.
I'm picking him up at 9:30 and I'm bringing him back there and he is going to walk in and ask to speak to her again and if she doesn't give him an answer, I'm going to ask to speak to her. This kid is screaming for help and can't get it. I don't understand why she would say he can pay for the methadone, but can't have the suboxone that my insurance covers. They both do the same thing, so either you believe he wants to help himself and are going to treat him, or you aren't. Do they make more money off the cash they get for the methadone then they would off the suboxone my insurance covers. She said she isn't comfortable because he can't even give her an address where he lives. Hellooooo, he doesn't live anywhere and needs to keep his job so he can live somewhere!!!
he said she made comments about not knowing if she believes he really wants to do this and she thinks he might just be trying to get high. He told her he wants to come to meetings everyday and do whatever it takes and then move into a sober house. She told him nobody will take him into a soberhouse on suboxone. She is totally wrong because I found places on line that say they take methadone and suboxone users.
If they can't help him I don't know where else to take him!! When somebody actually wants help it shouldn't be this difficult. If she's afraid he's going to sell the suboxone because it's a prescription he's going to tell her he'll come there everyday and have someone give it to him like the methadone.
Oh and if he can come to the 2:00 group today he also needs to come in tomorrow sick in order for them to give him the suboxone I guess to prove he hasn't used, but he'll never get through work tonight with nothing in his system. What a viscious cycle!!
Wish me luck. I'll let you all know how it goes!!
