Just Found an Empty 'Spice' packet under difficult children Mattress
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Calamity Jane
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Oh boy, I'm sorry. I know firsthand how disheartening that is.
What if you confront him and he says it was old, and that it was never spotted from a long time ago?
What if you confront him and he says it was old, and that it was never spotted from a long time ago?
I don't think that they have been able to crack down completely on Spice because the manufacturers just change the ingredients a little each time and then they can still sell it legally.
I know you must be heartbroken. Each time I found out that my difficult child was lying to me it was like a kick in the gut. CJ is right . . . he will claim it was old.
~Kathy
I know you must be heartbroken. Each time I found out that my difficult child was lying to me it was like a kick in the gut. CJ is right . . . he will claim it was old.
~Kathy
comatheart
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AppleCori
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It can't be that old, he's only lived here three weeks!
He's been staying in his brother's room (17yo brother lives full time with their mom and only uses his room at our house occasionally).
And he won't even TRY to pin it on his brother, 21yo knows that would be ridiculous.
And we cleaned out difficult child's old room back when he moved out a year and a half ago, and it has been repurposed, so can't use that as possible source.
Dad has warned him several times about not using/bringing drugs into the house. I have been suspicious, but dad has been sure he hasn't been using. Even when dad found a 'corn holder' (the thing that you stick in either end of corn on the cob to hold it while you eat it) in the room with some kind of residue on it.
As for what we are gonna do about it: Not 100% sure. Dad is at work and difficult child is out 'job hunting'. They will be back at 5pm.
It has to be either drug rehab or out, though.
difficult child's mom says she has a plastic grocery bag stuffed full of spice packets from his room when he lived with her till July. They may confront him together.
Of course, mom had made him go to drug counseling at the end of his time with her, but he didn't stick with it, so I don't see out patient counseling as a good solution.
He's been staying in his brother's room (17yo brother lives full time with their mom and only uses his room at our house occasionally).
And he won't even TRY to pin it on his brother, 21yo knows that would be ridiculous.
And we cleaned out difficult child's old room back when he moved out a year and a half ago, and it has been repurposed, so can't use that as possible source.
Dad has warned him several times about not using/bringing drugs into the house. I have been suspicious, but dad has been sure he hasn't been using. Even when dad found a 'corn holder' (the thing that you stick in either end of corn on the cob to hold it while you eat it) in the room with some kind of residue on it.
As for what we are gonna do about it: Not 100% sure. Dad is at work and difficult child is out 'job hunting'. They will be back at 5pm.
It has to be either drug rehab or out, though.
difficult child's mom says she has a plastic grocery bag stuffed full of spice packets from his room when he lived with her till July. They may confront him together.
Of course, mom had made him go to drug counseling at the end of his time with her, but he didn't stick with it, so I don't see out patient counseling as a good solution.
AppleCori
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Is difficult child a personality type?
Our difficult child does the exact same thing! He will argue circles around his dad, unfortunately.
I'm sure he will come up with some excuse, rationale, or explanation and both mom and dad have a tendency to buy into his story.
I've seen it SO many times.
However, they have been doing it less and less as evidence mounts.
Its not gonna be a fun evening!
Our difficult child does the exact same thing! He will argue circles around his dad, unfortunately.
I'm sure he will come up with some excuse, rationale, or explanation and both mom and dad have a tendency to buy into his story.
I've seen it SO many times.
However, they have been doing it less and less as evidence mounts.
Its not gonna be a fun evening!
At the very least, there does seem to be a "difficult child profile"...
Well, not quite, but...
There are "classes" of difficult children, and each class has a particular set of traits... I like DF's term "profile".
The profile for an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) difficult child is different than a Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS)/Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE) difficult child which is different from MI or SA or...
Oh sure - but even so, there are some commonalities. Such as:
Avoids responsibility
Immature / naive / young for their age
Blames everyone else for their problems
Lack of motivation
Disregard for others / inconsiderate
BusynMember
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They have similar ways to get out of HAVING responsibility too. A few of my favorite lies were:
1. "It's not mine. I'm holding it for a friend!"
2. "I didn't even know it was there! Somebody is trying to get me into trouble!"
3. "I was going to throw it away then I forgot I even had it!"
I heard all of those more than once.
1. "It's not mine. I'm holding it for a friend!"
2. "I didn't even know it was there! Somebody is trying to get me into trouble!"
3. "I was going to throw it away then I forgot I even had it!"
I heard all of those more than once.
Hmmm.... my easy child has more of those traits than difficult child does.
Immature - definitely. Socially totally clueless, so he comes across as having disregard for others, but that isn't his heart or his intent. Lacking skills on many fronts, but not lacking motivation... except in those specific areas where school did a great job at killing motivation. You can be a total difficult child and very hard to manage, and not be like your difficult child list.
easy child... is almost-NT, totally teen and... ALL of the above. But not a difficult child. (if enough additional things go wrong, that might change, of course)
lovemysons
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AppleCori,
Just sending out my thoughts for you and your family as you decide what to do about difficult child.
Hugs,
LMS
Just sending out my thoughts for you and your family as you decide what to do about difficult child.
Hugs,
LMS
