Marguerite
Active Member
I mentioned on my earlier thread on this topic, that I had been given the term "palilalia" as a possibly appropriate term. A more appropriate, blanket term is "disfluency". Sometimes spelt as "dysfluency". This covers a range of speech issues including stuttering.
I'm continuing to dig on this, but following the leads has brought me this far. It is also important to keep in mind that we must be careful to not try to change something which may actually be needed as a coping strategy. It's like trying to stop a kid from stimming - sometimes they need to stimulant. If you stop one kind of stimulant, another is likely to emerge.
Back to disfluency - I found a speech pathology site, I'm only on the edge of it and I do need to go to bed and get some sleep. But I've bookmarked it and will do more digging tomorrow.
In the meantime, to consider - when we speak, we try to continue a smooth flow. We need to get our thoughts in order, formulate what we wish to say, then hold it in place while we speak. As we speak our thought patterns can change, If we are interrupted we need to be able to not only listen to the other person, but continue to hold the thought we were expressing, as well as perhaps modify that thought and develop a new line of communication.
This is complex. If you have any difficulty mentally multi-tasking, you will have problems here of varying kinds. But there are other problems here also, since difficult child 3 is quite bad with this disfluency (for want of a more specific term) and yet is good at multi-tasking.
We've all encountered the person who tunes out when someone else is speaking and who is merely waiting for a break in speech ion order to jump in with what they are sitting on, waiting to say. You can never argue with people like this because they are not able to pay attention, AND formulate their response at the same time.
What I'm dealing with is on a bigger scale. It's as if their own thoughts are interfering with their ability to flow their speech. Once temporarily derailed, they repeat the word, the phrase or the sentence, as if they can snag a ride and continue through the block by sheer momentum. And when that doesn't work, they try it again. And again.
husband was trained out of using um and er, which are common, socially acceptable (when not over-used) ways to maintain fluency of conversation when briefly stuck for the next word. Would he have been worse? Or better? I also was trained out of it but I'm still capable of fluent speech, despite increasing cognitive dysfunction. In fact, I'm better than most - I can think fast on my feet, listen to the other argument, formulate my reply AND deliver it with very few, if any, fluency lubricators. difficult child 1, with his known memory problems and poor multi-tasking, can do it too. So it's not just a cognitive issue, nor is it entirely a multi-tasking issue, nor a linguistic one. This is complex. I also think it could have deeper implications, in how we lay down memory, for example. Therefore, the answers here could be very important.
A lot of us appear to be affected by this either because of personally exhibiting this, or a family member has it.
All ideas, please pool them here. I will do more digging in the morning and report back as I discover more titbits.
Marg
I'm continuing to dig on this, but following the leads has brought me this far. It is also important to keep in mind that we must be careful to not try to change something which may actually be needed as a coping strategy. It's like trying to stop a kid from stimming - sometimes they need to stimulant. If you stop one kind of stimulant, another is likely to emerge.
Back to disfluency - I found a speech pathology site, I'm only on the edge of it and I do need to go to bed and get some sleep. But I've bookmarked it and will do more digging tomorrow.
In the meantime, to consider - when we speak, we try to continue a smooth flow. We need to get our thoughts in order, formulate what we wish to say, then hold it in place while we speak. As we speak our thought patterns can change, If we are interrupted we need to be able to not only listen to the other person, but continue to hold the thought we were expressing, as well as perhaps modify that thought and develop a new line of communication.
This is complex. If you have any difficulty mentally multi-tasking, you will have problems here of varying kinds. But there are other problems here also, since difficult child 3 is quite bad with this disfluency (for want of a more specific term) and yet is good at multi-tasking.
We've all encountered the person who tunes out when someone else is speaking and who is merely waiting for a break in speech ion order to jump in with what they are sitting on, waiting to say. You can never argue with people like this because they are not able to pay attention, AND formulate their response at the same time.
What I'm dealing with is on a bigger scale. It's as if their own thoughts are interfering with their ability to flow their speech. Once temporarily derailed, they repeat the word, the phrase or the sentence, as if they can snag a ride and continue through the block by sheer momentum. And when that doesn't work, they try it again. And again.
husband was trained out of using um and er, which are common, socially acceptable (when not over-used) ways to maintain fluency of conversation when briefly stuck for the next word. Would he have been worse? Or better? I also was trained out of it but I'm still capable of fluent speech, despite increasing cognitive dysfunction. In fact, I'm better than most - I can think fast on my feet, listen to the other argument, formulate my reply AND deliver it with very few, if any, fluency lubricators. difficult child 1, with his known memory problems and poor multi-tasking, can do it too. So it's not just a cognitive issue, nor is it entirely a multi-tasking issue, nor a linguistic one. This is complex. I also think it could have deeper implications, in how we lay down memory, for example. Therefore, the answers here could be very important.
A lot of us appear to be affected by this either because of personally exhibiting this, or a family member has it.
All ideas, please pool them here. I will do more digging in the morning and report back as I discover more titbits.
Marg