Hound dog
Nana's are Beautiful
This is not an issue for me. I don't "do" victim as an adult, I don't give a snot who you are. It has to do with a co worker friend and our supervisor/boss for the temp co. (who is married with kids by the way, and has a rep for this behavior, a rather strong one as he's been charged with it countless times and still has his job)
S is a friendly lady about 10 yrs younger than me, good worker, difficult child trying hard to get back onto the path of easy child, married (husband is in prison, long story but the reason for rehab and changing her life) Attractive......but does give off a bit of victim vibes. Her dad is a sadistic abuser, unfortunately that is whom she has to live with right now, and I think it's got her falling into old patterns of behavior subconsciously.
Soooooo boss man decides he's got a thing for this lil red head. Now he's from the same rural area as she is, and I'm thinking HER past rep is also playing a role here if you Know what I mean?? I have seen him too many times stand right behind her far too close for comfort, MY comfort.....and he's not doing it to me, basically breathing down her neck. I've heard him repeatedly ask her out and her turn him down. (although she is always friendly, too friendly in my opinion if you get my drift for the situation) He seeks her out. I have seen him pat her ass, grab her waist. He's always hanging around........and it drives me nuts because he tends to get in the way and I just plain can't stand the man.
I have told S repeatedly she needs to, when he does this crud, state LOUDLY whatever it was he did (ask her out or touch her or get too close) and tell him to basically back off. It doesn't have to be done in a snarky tone to get the message across.......loud draws everyone's attention to it and gives her witnesses, which we all know he doesn't really want.
Example (and I did explain how to do it to her): Boss stands right up on her. Announce LOUD that he is standing in your bubble and he needs to MOVE. Firm voice, even if you smile. This she actually did but used a much too easy going voice to make it effective. Boss grabs her rear end she needs to announce to the line L you did NOT just grab my #ss! LOUD.....that comment doesn't matter too much what tone of voice because it spells out exactly what he did but works better with a shocked or poed tone.
That sort of thing. Tends to stop it immediately because it draws attention to his behavior.
Now one night he was so bad that he was all up in my space too and interfering with my slugging and majorly ticking me off. He got up close to me like he did S.....doubtful it was for the same reason as I'm 10 yrs older and we don't care much for each other (cuz I take no crud from him) maybe it was to talk to me about S or something I dunno......and since I was already ticked.......well as loud as I could (cuz machines are loud) I said "L you are in my BUBBLE, get the F out of my bubble and let me work, you're in my way." Of course everyone in the area looked (a bit shocked too lol ) Yes, boss got ticked off and mumbled something about "trying to help" to which I replied I didn't need help thanks and he stomped off in a huff. However he's never gotten close to me like that again.
I'm not the only one to witness his behavior with S. Anyone who slugs with her would have to be blind to miss it. Now another co worker......young girl about 19.......who's mom is the supervisor for the line on day shift wants to report him for S who is too scared of losing her job to report him. We car pool together and she told me last night. She asked if I'd be a witness. I of course said yes. But I did say that S has to make it plain to boss she wants him to stop what he's doing it bothers her or I'm pretty sure they can't do anything. Girl was going to talk to her mom about it.
I will stand up for S. No doubt. Even if it costs me my job. Just the way I am. And it probably will......except that I know boss man's boss personally and that might be the only thing that saves MY rear. Because she knows me well enough that I don't go around making trouble, but I will call it like I see it.
I'm going to remind the girl that S has got to stand up to boss to at least tell him to stop that it makes her uncomfortable. Because seriously, he can easily play it off as just flirting and as far as I've seen she her responses can be taken more as hard to get than her being uncomfortable with his behavior. However she has stated to coworkers repeatedly that she hates it ect. But I don't think it will go anywhere if she doesn't stand up to him. He's faced this crud too many times and gotten off too many times, and that is likely the reason for it.
I'm a bit worried if S doesn't at least once tell him to stop, she's going to lose her job........or charges will make him back off but then he's going to make working there a nightmare so she quits.......as well as anyone who stood up for her. Oh, he wouldn't dare the girl I car pool with cuz her mom would get involved, but yeah. Not sure he would with me either cuz I'll rip him a new one in front of God and everyone and he knows it. If I lost my job because I stood up for her, the world won't end. I like my job, but there are other jobs.......and now I have nearly 6 months experience in manufacturing under my belt......so not anywhere near the situation I was in when I started job hunt wise.
And if he was gonna give me a rough time about it, he would already be doing so. He now seeks S out when I'm not with her as much as possible. Why? Because I get in his way. One day he kept trying to touch her while he talked to her......he was standing right next to the slug box.......and I made sure my hand knocked his away "reaching for a slug" each time he reached out, or I'll interrupt or I'll just stare his fanny down with my momma stare until he gets uncomfortable and leaves. If I'm there he has hardly a chance to do/say anything because I don't give it to him. Boss knows darn good and well I know what he's up to.
Sad thing is..........as much as I don't like boss man........I think in his mind he is flirting, not harassing. Yup. Immoral him being married, but not everyone is faithful. He flirts with anyone S's age or younger especially if they are gifted in the chest area. I think he believes himself to be a ladies man of sorts. (gag me) Ex HS football player ego type dude if you get my drift. S is the only one I know of that didn't/hasn't shot him down pretty quickly. Not saying others weren't intimidated because as I said he's faces charges before......but I've not seen it personally. But S is somewhat conditioned by past abuse (grew up in an excessive abusive household) and is already going through abuse again with her elderly dad who gets worse as he ages and becomes more senile.
I will talk to S again today about just flat out telling boss what he does makes her uncomfortable and to stop it, she's not interested.
So? Hmm. Do you think this is going to blow up in S's face (even if it's reported by others) or if perhaps boss will find himself in a pickle? Sad to say.....I think S is going to find out because she has yet to take a stand that she's opened up a major can of worms and there are not many places that hire felons.
S is a friendly lady about 10 yrs younger than me, good worker, difficult child trying hard to get back onto the path of easy child, married (husband is in prison, long story but the reason for rehab and changing her life) Attractive......but does give off a bit of victim vibes. Her dad is a sadistic abuser, unfortunately that is whom she has to live with right now, and I think it's got her falling into old patterns of behavior subconsciously.
Soooooo boss man decides he's got a thing for this lil red head. Now he's from the same rural area as she is, and I'm thinking HER past rep is also playing a role here if you Know what I mean?? I have seen him too many times stand right behind her far too close for comfort, MY comfort.....and he's not doing it to me, basically breathing down her neck. I've heard him repeatedly ask her out and her turn him down. (although she is always friendly, too friendly in my opinion if you get my drift for the situation) He seeks her out. I have seen him pat her ass, grab her waist. He's always hanging around........and it drives me nuts because he tends to get in the way and I just plain can't stand the man.
I have told S repeatedly she needs to, when he does this crud, state LOUDLY whatever it was he did (ask her out or touch her or get too close) and tell him to basically back off. It doesn't have to be done in a snarky tone to get the message across.......loud draws everyone's attention to it and gives her witnesses, which we all know he doesn't really want.
Example (and I did explain how to do it to her): Boss stands right up on her. Announce LOUD that he is standing in your bubble and he needs to MOVE. Firm voice, even if you smile. This she actually did but used a much too easy going voice to make it effective. Boss grabs her rear end she needs to announce to the line L you did NOT just grab my #ss! LOUD.....that comment doesn't matter too much what tone of voice because it spells out exactly what he did but works better with a shocked or poed tone.
That sort of thing. Tends to stop it immediately because it draws attention to his behavior.
Now one night he was so bad that he was all up in my space too and interfering with my slugging and majorly ticking me off. He got up close to me like he did S.....doubtful it was for the same reason as I'm 10 yrs older and we don't care much for each other (cuz I take no crud from him) maybe it was to talk to me about S or something I dunno......and since I was already ticked.......well as loud as I could (cuz machines are loud) I said "L you are in my BUBBLE, get the F out of my bubble and let me work, you're in my way." Of course everyone in the area looked (a bit shocked too lol ) Yes, boss got ticked off and mumbled something about "trying to help" to which I replied I didn't need help thanks and he stomped off in a huff. However he's never gotten close to me like that again.
I'm not the only one to witness his behavior with S. Anyone who slugs with her would have to be blind to miss it. Now another co worker......young girl about 19.......who's mom is the supervisor for the line on day shift wants to report him for S who is too scared of losing her job to report him. We car pool together and she told me last night. She asked if I'd be a witness. I of course said yes. But I did say that S has to make it plain to boss she wants him to stop what he's doing it bothers her or I'm pretty sure they can't do anything. Girl was going to talk to her mom about it.
I will stand up for S. No doubt. Even if it costs me my job. Just the way I am. And it probably will......except that I know boss man's boss personally and that might be the only thing that saves MY rear. Because she knows me well enough that I don't go around making trouble, but I will call it like I see it.
I'm going to remind the girl that S has got to stand up to boss to at least tell him to stop that it makes her uncomfortable. Because seriously, he can easily play it off as just flirting and as far as I've seen she her responses can be taken more as hard to get than her being uncomfortable with his behavior. However she has stated to coworkers repeatedly that she hates it ect. But I don't think it will go anywhere if she doesn't stand up to him. He's faced this crud too many times and gotten off too many times, and that is likely the reason for it.
I'm a bit worried if S doesn't at least once tell him to stop, she's going to lose her job........or charges will make him back off but then he's going to make working there a nightmare so she quits.......as well as anyone who stood up for her. Oh, he wouldn't dare the girl I car pool with cuz her mom would get involved, but yeah. Not sure he would with me either cuz I'll rip him a new one in front of God and everyone and he knows it. If I lost my job because I stood up for her, the world won't end. I like my job, but there are other jobs.......and now I have nearly 6 months experience in manufacturing under my belt......so not anywhere near the situation I was in when I started job hunt wise.
And if he was gonna give me a rough time about it, he would already be doing so. He now seeks S out when I'm not with her as much as possible. Why? Because I get in his way. One day he kept trying to touch her while he talked to her......he was standing right next to the slug box.......and I made sure my hand knocked his away "reaching for a slug" each time he reached out, or I'll interrupt or I'll just stare his fanny down with my momma stare until he gets uncomfortable and leaves. If I'm there he has hardly a chance to do/say anything because I don't give it to him. Boss knows darn good and well I know what he's up to.
Sad thing is..........as much as I don't like boss man........I think in his mind he is flirting, not harassing. Yup. Immoral him being married, but not everyone is faithful. He flirts with anyone S's age or younger especially if they are gifted in the chest area. I think he believes himself to be a ladies man of sorts. (gag me) Ex HS football player ego type dude if you get my drift. S is the only one I know of that didn't/hasn't shot him down pretty quickly. Not saying others weren't intimidated because as I said he's faces charges before......but I've not seen it personally. But S is somewhat conditioned by past abuse (grew up in an excessive abusive household) and is already going through abuse again with her elderly dad who gets worse as he ages and becomes more senile.
I will talk to S again today about just flat out telling boss what he does makes her uncomfortable and to stop it, she's not interested.
So? Hmm. Do you think this is going to blow up in S's face (even if it's reported by others) or if perhaps boss will find himself in a pickle? Sad to say.....I think S is going to find out because she has yet to take a stand that she's opened up a major can of worms and there are not many places that hire felons.