Do any of you deal

Discussion in 'General Parenting' started by Wiped Out, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. Wiped Out

    Wiped Out Well-Known Member Staff Member

    with non stop eating? difficult child is eating non stop these days. Seriously from about 11:00 in the morning til he goes to bed he wants to eat. We are trying to have lots of healthy things around. The problem is, he never chooses them.

    Another problem is we buy a certain amount of something that should last for a week. Sometimes it is gone in 1 or 2 days. For example we buy enough salami for his lunches for the week but then he wants to eat it all the time till it's gone. We just can't afford to keep up with him. From now til at least Oct. 1st we are on a very tight budget.

    Yet another issue is we buy little ice cream cups that both kids are allowed to have one a day. If husband and I ever nap or don't have our eyes on him he eats more than one. We don't replace them when they're gone until the next week but it doesn't stop him from constantly asking for more.

    Speaking of asking, he is always asking us to stop and buy him something to eat. Even when we are leaving the health club he is begging.

    Over the years difficult child has gotten so violent over food that we haven't fought this battle. However, it's time he realizes we just can't keep up with him. I bought a container of peanut butter today and it's almost half gone already.

    by the way, he gets so angry when we say we aren't giving him $ or stopping to buy him something to eat. He gets verbally abusive and threatens violence (but at least hasn't been going there lately).

    He also wastes a lot, takes more than he can eat and feels no guilt at throwing it out.

    I know I could not buy any treats in the house but then that punishes easy child, husband, and me.

    I want to be careful in how I deal with this because I don't want him to get an eating disorder of any kind. He already admits he eats because he is bored or to comfort himself when he is feeling sad. We've tried to show him alternatives but he doesn't take advantage of them.

    Any suggestions? (We've thought about locks on the fridge and/or pantry but I'm wondering if that wouldn't promote to much of a struggle over food).
  2. wakeupcall

    wakeupcall Well-Known Member

    OMG....yoiu've taken my difficult child!!!!!!!!!!! This is him to a T. I don't know about you, but we've locked the pantry and frig before, and I guess we're going to have to do it again. BUT that won't stop him from putting too much on his plate at dinner, then DOWN the disposal it goes! Grrrrrrrr. He's 13 and some say it's normal, but he has ALWAYS done this, it's just getting worse.
  3. 1905

    1905 Well-Known Member

    You are talking about my difficult child as well, except he doesn't waste things or throw them away - he eats non-stop, he always has. He's now 22. When he was younger we could control it more than now, he graduated HS at about 200 lbs, he was on the football team, and it worked for him. BUT, he was always stealing money for food- we'd find the wrappers hidden all over, and he'd steal food all the time. I hate to use the word steal, but he was very sneaky, food was his drug of choice. The attic entrance is in his bedroom, he had stuffed trashbags worth of wrappers (it was sickening) up there, I'm talking about 3lb bags of string cheese and entire hot dog packages. We cleaned it all out, heartbroken, looking what he does to himself. Now, he is not under our watch and eats without hiding or sneaking. He is at least 300lbs. I weigh around 100. My heart breaks for difficult child. My advice to you- do all you can to get between him and food. It's his drug. Just do your best- it's all you can do. Even if he goes through school a little heavy, because of things you do to control it- he won't be FAT, or obese. Don't leave him to make his own choices, it's already an eating disorder. (((HUGS)))- Alyssa
  4. smallworld

    smallworld Moderator

    Sharon, do any of his medications cause increased appetite? Is it possible he needs an increase in Topamax to offset his insatiable hunger? This sounds disorderish, not something he can control. Have you talked to the psychiatrist about it?
  5. mstang67chic

    mstang67chic Going Green

    I've had that problem here also and still do. The only things I can tell you to do are lock up anything non-healthy whenever possible so YOU are the one who has control over how much and often it's eaten. Do you have a deep freeze that has a lock? If so you may want to utilize that and keep the key on you or well hidden. I rarely buy any kind of snacks or treats that have to be in the frig or freezer's too hard to control or hide. The non-perishable snacks I do buy are kept in my bedroom which has a deadbolt on the door. My freezer does lock but of course I haven't seen the key in years. :slap:

    I would just continue to keep healthy snacks in the house and maybe hold the less healthy stuff back as surprises. Is he in counseling? I would bring that up if you haven't already. Also, I know you said food is his comfort but have you made sure there aren't any medical issues for this?

    Other than that, I honestly don't know what to tell you. I go through similar things here and have yet to find a solution. Matter of fact...apparently I had a verrrrry talented dog once upon a time! :tongue: I had bought some cookie dough and left it in the frig for a "really long time" (24 hours...if that). Seems that our dog (Taz) opened the frig, got the cookie dough out and ate some before difficult child discovered it, took it away from Taz and threw it away. Really!!! I found the partial package in the trash with doggy teeth marks and that is the story I got from difficult child when I questioned him.

    If you figure out a solution, please let us know before you publish the book on it and make millions!
  6. Marguerite

    Marguerite Active Member

    There are a number of things you HAVE to do.

    1) Talk to the psychiatrist AND therapist. This could be a 'needy' matter, something he needs to get some sort of mental self-understanding for. We had this with easy child and I really wish I'd insisted on getting her into counselling more thoroughly. We'd find food sneaked but could never prove it was her. But ten when she wentto high school (which was furter away from home plus she had to travel independently) she would spend every cent of every bit of money she had (including what she earned from part-time jobs) in buying junk food. Then she wouldn't be hungry for the healthy meal I'd cooked, but she always wanted dessert. We had loads of fights over it. She still has serious weight problems and despite claiming to try to eat healthily, what she eats is so bad for me and my need for a greatly restricted diet, that I can't eat her food.

    2) You MUST restrict ALL access to anything not healthy in the slightest. Yes, I know you say this punishes everyone else - but think on this:
    First, food should NEVER be used as reward in any way. Absolutely never, because it builds lifelong bad habits. And Second, everyone else is already being punished for donig the right thing - you buy the ice cream cups and difficult child scoffs everyone else's share as well as his own, so people are being punished as it is now. At least if you restrict it for everyone, it's back to being fair to everyone.

    Now, you WILL be tempted to buy easy child some ice cream when it's just te two of you out - but be wary of this too. Because difficult child will hear of it and get upset. And easy child will find herself in the position of 'pampered kid' vs 'hard-done-by kid' even though that isn't really how it is. And also, you're building up again, the concept of sweet treats as reward, as something forbidden but highly desirable. NOT good.

    I'm not saying you have to live the health spa lifestyle permanently. But you DO have to live it semi-permanently, and you MUST be strict, at least for the first SIX MONTHS.

    And in the meantime, go intensive with the therapy. You need to find out why he is doing tihs.

    Now for some possible reasons for this:

    1) He had a very rough start early in life. Doctors are now realising that there can be a connection to later eating/nourishment/metabolism problems. And here, easy child possibly has an explanation. In her case, the placenta began to die before birth and she was actually losing weight in utero. My doctor was onto it fast and had me in hospital on bed rest so we could help the baby build up that vital fat layer that builds in the last trimester; but despite this, she had to be induced early. She was a skinny rat when born but rapidly put on the weight AFTER she was born, that the placenta wouldn't allow before. Simply - she was being starved before birth.
    Now we know what happens if a person goes on a starvation diet - it slows your metabolism and you often end up with even more weight being gained. easy child doubled her birthweight by 6 weeks of age. I've since met another woman, a doctor, whose daughter has the same problem and had the same history. She told me that yes, there is a connection betyween placental insufficiency and serious weight problems in that child later in life. So I take it further - ANY prenatal malnourishment of the baby, for whatever reason, is likely to cause this insatiable craving for calories, especially unhealthy 'comfort food'. A well-functioning placenta should prevent this, as a rule. A mother who is self-starving should still have a normal birthweight baby. But the slightest malfunction of the placenta could overturn this, and the placenta often does start to die back towards the end of the pregnancy.

    2) A child who is born into a damaging, neglectful environment DOES get affected by this. In the 70s this wasn't thought to be the case. My sister adopted two babies, both over 6 months old. Different backgrounds. Both had been emotionally neglected, one had been in and out of hospital with malnutrition and we knew, from her behaviour when we got her, that she had been fed by being put into her cot with a cold bottle of formula. You couldn't give her a warm bottle, she would refuse it. And she refused to be held to have her bottle. She grew up to be very emotionally demanding, even though she had been lavished with love and surrounded by siblings from 7 months old. She grew up wanting it ALL, and would complain if her sister got ANYTHING. She would help herself to her sister's things constantly. She would raid food, raid everything. Luckily for her she has always been slim. Her adopted brother - he turned to drugs, then crime to fund the drugs. He's clean now but brain-addled.

    3) He's male on the cusp of puberty. It's scary how fast their appetitite can increase, and how desperate they can be for calories. Urgently. It's a boy thing. I've had friends tell me the same thing about their easy child teen males and how they raid the cupboard in an almost whimpering frenzy - "I MUST have FOOD! NOW!!!" The best way to cope is to plan ahead and have GOOD food available for him. If that is what it is, he needs carbs and protein as a first priority. NOT sugar.

    4) And of course, the reason already suggested - medications. We've had the risperdal experience andwhat it did to difficult child 1. He doubled his weight in six months. That might be OK for a baby, but not for a teenager! He has since lost the weight (some of it) but it took about two years after he went off the risperdal. He's back to his earlier wiry frame but now he's in his mid-20s, he has put on more muscle and bone so of course he weighs more than when he was 15. But he still weighs a lot less than when he was 16!

    You need to tromp on this now. It won't be pretty, but you MUST remove ALL non-essential food form the house. At the same time, fill the fridge with nourishing alternatives. Make sure there is plenty of it. It's cheaper anyway, especially if you make it yourself. I personally have learned to specialise in what I call "gourmet poverty food" and you're welcome to any of my recipes. But you ALL have to do this. No having husband bring home a packet of jellies he bought wile waiting for the bus on the way home from work... any snacks bought must be eaten away from difficult child and away from the house.

    Fast food - avoid it. It's expensive anyway. Finding healthy options when you're away from home is difficult (as I found when I had to go on my diet - I HAD to diet, or die). I won't tell you what is healthy in your area, because I suspect a lot of the healthy options we have here in Australai are not available in the US - it's because we have a different cultural mix here plus different products available. We do have McDonalds and KFC as well. However, you do have Subway - use them (or similar) when you're out. But the gourmet poverty food option - instead of going to Subway or similar, go into a supermarket. Buy a small packet of ham, or sliced meat, or smoked salmon. Buy some small tubs of low-fat cream cheese (to use as spread). Buy a pint of milk carton for the kdis to drink each. You can flavour it yourself with decaf instant coffee and a lesser amount of sugar (or artificial sweetener tabs, if you're watching their weight also). You open one corner of the carton, drop in the coffee/sweetener, close it up, hold it tight, then shake. You might need tp drink the milk down a little first so you have an air space to help it shake up better. But frankly, in our family we like milk plain.
    Now for the rest of your lunch - in the supermarket if you like, you can buy some leafy greens and maybe a tomato and anything else you want. Or you cna go to a greengrocer's for them. I go to a hot brad shop for some crusty bread rolls, each person can ask for whatever plain bread roll they want. Wholegrain for preference, but with or without poppy seeds or sesame seeds. Whatever shape. But no sweet rolls, nothing topped with pizza. Then you take your ingredients and either go to the spupermarket car park, or to a picnic table in the area (or drive off somewhere nicer - we have some lovely foresty areas very near the mall) and make your picnic lunch. It is quick to do, it's fun to do it yourself, the kids learn more about making it yourself. Plus you can make it to individual preference. Perhaps difficult child doesn't like smoked salmon - so he can have ham. Or maybe he doesn't like tomato on his roll but will accept eating some chunks of tomato instead. What does it matter? The food all ends up in the same place!
    Example - last night we had a roast lamb dinner at mother in law's. She knew that difficult child 3 will eat roast carrot but prefers his carrot raw. So she got a carrot out for him. But there she went wrong - she peeled it and was about to cut it up. I stopped her, then I fished the carrot peel out of the bin for him. (It's OK, there was nothing in that bin that was bad, it was simply the empty plastic bag the frozen peas had been in, plus some fresh potato peels). difficult child 3 prefers his carrots raw. he also LOVES to eat the carrot peel. A special treat for him is if I peel a carrot and keep peeling, so he gets raw carrot curls, a big bowl of them. But last night, he got on his dinner plate with his roast lamb, steamed peas and roast potato - his peeled raw carrot, the peel of that carrot and the little end his grandma had chopped off it. And he was very happy, because his tastes had been catered to.
    Whenever I peel carrots, I put the peel into a bowl for difficult child 3. It's a special treat for him.

    Now, you might be thinking, "poor desprived kid, no wonder he thinks carrot peel is a treat, he doesn't ever get ice cream or sweets."
    But he does. He does tend to try to sneak food, but nothing like easy child and because we've already been through the extreme limitations within the home, the law-abiding side of the autism has kicked in. Plus he has added some healthy foods to his treat menu, without being forced in any way (other than restrictions).

    There are some surprising favourites you can discover, when you begin this sort of restriction. The secret is - while you restrict junnk food and sweets, you simultaneously ADD the healthy treats and increase the supply of healthy food.

    Does your difficult child have a problem with weight? In which case, you will need to modify the family's carb options to avoid all added sugar, all white bread (replace it with wholegrain bread) and swap brown rice for white. If this is too harsh, ease back as far as you feel you must. But to this day, we don't have jam in the house (except some sealed jars of home-made strawberry which I made, which we open when guests visit).

    The rest of the family will benefit. Trust me. You will need to ignore the whines mostly, but ask them what it is they are wanting. When they say, "ice cream!" then say, "What is it about ice cream that you want?" Because there are alternatives.

    One suggestion is (if this is available for you) - small rectangular 'bricks' of fruit juice. We have them here, they are useful for school lunches. But ONLY available in the freezer, one portion, for dessert. They take a while to eat through, because they are so hard. If you can get the ones with pulp in them, they are easier to eat (I like thme better). We get mango nectar ones here, my favourites. Other options (for the budget) - buy fruit in season, sweet fruit. Bananas are fabulous as an ingredient here. Puree the fruit (or chop it up). If you have frozen raspberries, add a couple and you get a glorious sunset colour. ADD AT LEAST ONE OVER-RIPE BANANA. No sugar at all. Now freeze it, in ice treat moulds. And teach the kids how to make them.
    Some lovely combinations - banana, pineapple, mango, raspberry (optional). Or a berry combo, with banana. Or mango & pineapple (it's so sweet it doesn't need banana). You can go the pina colada route with coconut cream, banana & pineapple. Just leave out the rum, or it won't freeze!

    I did say fill the fridge with other healthy foods. I used to buy sausages in bulk, and cook them a dozen at a time. I would keep leftover cold sausages in the fridge and the kids could help themselves at any time. We stocked up on carrots, tomatoes, lettuce, celery. All available on demand. The only rule was - tell me (or write it on the shopping list) when you open the last packet of something, or the number gets down to three (with tomatoes). If I don't know we're running low, I can't buy more.

    Of course sometimes dinner would come round and the kids wouldn't be hungry. But that was OK - what they had eaten was the equivalent of a healthy meal anyway. it often meant they were ready for bed earlier in the night.

    Even dips can be healthy. Again, if you want recipes, let me know. But my kids developed a taste for dips like tzaziki, taramasalata, creamed cottage cheese mixed with corn relish. All served with vegetable sticks. I would have a sealed plastic tub of carrot sticks and celery sticks in the fridge so kids could have a dip if they wanted. Home-made dips are easy, they can be made with healthy options (even if they taste decadent) and therefore can be really cheap.

    Main meals - I cook a lot of casseroles and curries. You can make a curry without any chili, so even a baby could eat it. I'm currently getting difficult child 3 acclimatised to chili. I do a lot of slow-cooking with the cheapest cuts of meat, the cuts I have to ask specially for because few people will eat it. Ox-tail, gravy beef. Other cuts like osso bucco can be expensive because it's become fashionable, but it SHOULD be cheap. Same with lamb shanks. Now THAT is comfort food! For the ultimate comfort food (cheap) try a Moroccan-style gravy beef with mashed potato. Always make sure you have plenty of leftovers, so people can microwave a serve.

    A special treat under these conditions is one I make myself - home-made fruit loaf. Again I make it to family tastes. I love it with raisins and walnuts in it, but the family nixed on the nuts, so it's just raisins. It does have sugar in the mix, but it also has other flavours such as mixed spice. I also add an egg to every home-made loaf of bread, to boost the protein level. I just add raw egg to the liquid allowance. By baking my own bread, I'm saving bucketloads of money. We slice the loaf and keep it in the freezer. Home-made bread is a very fast way to switch a family from shop-bought unhealthy treats, to effective, tasty, satisfying tummy-fillers.

    As the family adapts, you can consider adding to the luxury items. But slowly, gently. At the first sign of hoarding, sneaking or avoidance of the other good stuff, you drop it off again and go back to where you were.

    And all the time - stay in touch with the therapist.

    DO NOT FEEL GUILTY. This is a GOOD thing to do. Ignore the advertising world that says "you ought to be congratulated" or "The happiest families eat product X." It's all designed to take us furter from our pioneer roots and into a world where we are so dependent on manufacture that we forget how to look after ourselves and our family.

    The best gift you can give your children, besides healthy living habits, is the ability to in the future fend for themselves even when times are tough. Now is your opportunity to teach them. We can't all be wealthy, but we can still be healthy.

    And a suggestion on the food wastage - teach him to dumpster dive in your own kitchen. To do this you need to change the bin liner frequently, so it's safe to do this. We use a compost bucket and a worm farm (it's called the chook house, in our case). You need to check the compost bucket frequently and salvage what you need. HE needs to bot be so fussy - again, desperation should teach this. If he really is so desperate, he will eat it all.
    However, if he is combining desperation with wastefulness with hoarding with sneaking other people's shares - I think it's time for the therapist, there is something overly acquisitive about this which screams of "It has to all be MINE!". And that needs to be dealt with fast.

    PM me if you want my recipes. They are metric, but I can translate if you need me to. I've got it all as a computer file (except for the ones in my head). I've been committing it all to computer so as each kid leaves home, I send them with their own recipe book printed from my file.

  7. wakeupcall

    wakeupcall Well-Known Member

    Wow, Marg. You are a wealth of info!!
  8. lmf64

    lmf64 New Member

    Lock it all up. I have locks on the fridge and freezer. Nothing comes in the house that isn't healthy, but in order to have food to last for meals I have to lock it all up. I didn't lock the freezer one night, not thinking about the package of Canadian bacon (1 pound) and of course the next day I found the package in difficult child's room. He will eat from the minute he gets up and continues to eat all day including getting up in the middle of the night to eat. His original non-stop eating began when we added Abilify and it probably has backed off some, but this kid would eat me out of house and home without locks.
  9. Marguerite

    Marguerite Active Member

    Good point, lmf64.

    You shouldn't have to do this, but if there currently are insufficient boundaries between 'food needed for family meals' and 'food you can help yourself to' then you need to lock up the provisions. But you still shouldn't lock up any food that isn't also available in the "help yourself' provisions. Locking it up makes it desirable, and you need to re-educate the family on what constitutes "desirable' and make sure it = 'good for you'.

    I know this seams preachy, but desperate situations call for desperate measures, and the combination of unhealthy thinking, unhealthy eating and small budget means you need to buy food in season and fresh; you need to buy cheap (which doesn't have to mean poor quality) and you need the skills to manage it all (locking up what you have to, providing healthy snakcs in abundance that are also mini-meals; cooking healthy, nourishing one-pot meals with leftovers to perpetuate the cycle).

    A suggestion, if oyu have to lock things up - use your 'spare' fridge if you have one. We have what some people wouldcall a beer fridge. We use it for excess produce but if we had to, we'd have a padlock on it and use it to store the bulk ingredients likely to be raided.

    The other rule - food that gets regularly raided doesn't get bought, no matter how much other family members want it. So if the bacon gets raided and can't be kept safe - sorry kids, no more bacon. We had a similar thing with difficult child 3 eating frozen raw ravioli. So I stopped buying ravioli, unless I bought a packet and cooked it immediately.

    Eggs are really good. We try to keep at least a dozen, often with another dozen in the spare fridge. difficult child 3 doesn't like omelettes or scrambled eggs but enjoys boiledeggs. I boil 4 at a time (if it's just for him) and he eats two, the other two go in the fridge for later. But I've got omelettes down pat, I can cook an omelette in two minutes. That includes grated cheddar in the middle if you want. mother in law dropped in, I gave her an unexpected lunch of an omelette that I was able to hand to her while she was still saying, "Yes, please"...

  10. Nomad

    Nomad Guest

    "yes" to all your questions.

    When difficult child was little, we resorted to locking up sweets and such in a box with a padlock. Sometimes this worked (not always).

    We put her on various diets and sent her to "fat" camp twice.

    Does your difficult child like sports? Any kind of games? Might you introduce him to checkers or even chess? Are there any video games with educational value?

    Surely it will be best to GREATLY limit any sweets in the house...few carbohydrates. Perhaps buy just a few treats on the weekend and then keep them locked securly in your bedroom ....big time securly.

    Keep your difficult child distracted with other things to do.

    If the problem persists, please double check with your doctor!
  11. timer lady

    timer lady Queen of Hearts

    Sharon, the tweedles both hoard food. They don't necessarily eat it; it just needs to be nearby.

    I stopped bringing in ice cream & the like. I started making my own pudding cups & jello cups (enough for the day). That plus yogurt (the twix kind for kids).

    I set up a snack basket each day ~ once it was gone snacking was over the day as well. The basket included fruit, veggies, crackers, popcorn. It also had fun things like fruit snacks, a portion of cookies put in a sandwich bag, pudding or jello snack note to be handed in to me for use.

    This actually worked for a bit of time ~ we still found food hoarded. It was based on their level of anxiety. Once that anxious time was treated, addressed the need for constant food diminished.

    The tweedles still hoard on occasion. I've taught them & they still read the portion & use that for their snack. I introduced fruit dips & veggie dips.

    Something to consider. If it's medications I'm all for locking things up. When it comes to locking up the kitchen for what may be anxiety, a growth spurt or just plain boredom I'm more reluctant to take those steps.
  12. graceupongrace

    graceupongrace New Member


    Sorry you have to deal with this. I do think talking to therapist & psychiatrist is a good idea. If he's violent/abusive/threatening over food, it's probably not really about the food, in my humble opinion.

    My rule is that if the kids fight about a food, or it otherwise becomes a problem, I won't buy it. I used to buy cinnamon rolls, and they'd fight about who ate more than their share, or I'd get enough for two days and they'd finish them in one day, so I stopped buying them. Same with desserts. And guess what -- we all still get the nutrition we need and no one feels deprived. (Well, difficult child complains about the lack of "good" food, but that's because he likes to complain. :tongue:)

    My kitchen is always stocked with plenty of good, healthy food. The kids can grab a yogurt or make a sandwich (ham, turkey, chicken, leftover steak) anytime. They're happy to have a bowl of cereal as a snack. They like to cook eggs. difficult child constantly makes pb&j sandwiches -- not the best, but at least he's getting some protein. If they eat all of the "breakfast food" all day long, I won't race out to the store; they have to figure out something else for the next day's breakfast.

    If we want a treat, we go out for ice cream or frozen yogurt, or I buy/make enough for one night's dessert. That allows them a treat, but limits the availablity without resorting to locks. Yes, it would be nice to have more treats around the house (I'd love a brownie right now -- lol!). But on balance, it's not worth it. And I honestly think this strategy has helped the kids differentiate between "need" and "want."

    Sending gentle hugs your way!
  13. Wiped Out

    Wiped Out Well-Known Member Staff Member

    Thank you, thank you for the many ideas.:) I will respond more tonight (or tomorrow as this is going to be a long day and I already have to get dressed to go walking).
  14. Christy

    Christy New Member

    Since starting risperdal, my difficult child wants to eat all the time. In addition, he used to be quite hyper and always on the go so he could burn it all off but now he spends much more time in front of the tv or playing with non active things like legos and action figures. It's been hot and humid and he doesn't tolerate heat well so swimming a few days a week has been his only exercise. He 11 and eats adult sized meals and then wants to snack constantly. I still have a lot of control over what he eats and I put limits on him. I offer healthy snacks in leiu of more empty calories but even those have calories so I cut him off if he is overeating. He gets very angry about it but I won't give in, if I feel that he's already had enough to eat. I suggest that he may be bored and try to steer him into a new activity. Sometimes if he's insistant on eating something else and he just has to have it, I tell him that if he burns the calories in advance on the ellipictical trainer, he can eat them. So if he wants a 100 calories pack of cookies, it would take about 10-15 minutes of working out. He has gained about 15 pounds in the three months he has been on risperdal and its tapering off but I know it will continue if we don't intervene. Now that the weather will be getting better, we will make more of an effort to do active things but it is really a push because he just doesn't enjoy it. He even hates his bike, pedaling is too much work! So the goal for our whole family this fall is to get out there and take a wlk, even the dog will benefit, lol!

    We've made popsicles from crystal light drink mixes which he also enjoys. Also, I have bought many flavors of sugarless gum and it gives his mouth something to do.
  15. DaisyFace

    DaisyFace Love me...Love me not


    I share your frustration. I hate HATE when I buy something that should last only to find it gone almost the moment it came home. difficult child is a big food-sneaker....and I think it is more about hoarding and having that actually feeling hungry. We have restricted her access to the kitchen...and yet I will find candy and gum in her bedroom that she is obviously taking from some other source.

    I wish I had an answer for you....


  16. DammitJanet

    DammitJanet Well-Known Member Staff Member

    I have one non-stop eater still here. Of course, simply raising teen boys means you have non-stop eaters! I think that is in the definition somewhere. My boys lived on oodles of noodles as between meal snacks as teens. At the time they were ten cents a pack so they were really cheap boy filler uppers.

    Now that Billy is the only one at home, we know he is the food eater. He can go through some food! I buy something like ice cream and find a spoonful left in the carton. If I really want my snacks, I keep them in my room.