therapist situation. I, at leaast, have identified the problem in my own mind but can't find words to articulate it well and briefly yet. I understand that maybe I just have a misconception, but I have a strong vision in my mind about what should be transipiring regarding psychotherapy so I don't really see why a therapist can't discuss that and tell me whether or not they can do it. My vision comes from the research I've done, primarily through the CABF website/materials and The Explosive Child techniques as an add-on. The big issue with me is that this information really hits home and when I approach these things with difficult child from this stanpoint, it is extremely effective. When I get school members to do the least little things from this standpoint, it is also very effective. So, I have faith in these recommendations being the right course of action for difficult child. The problem- other than tdocs who put words in my mouth rather than just asking me how I feel and other than them having no clue what it is like to witness your child raging or being manic or suicidal, is that I haven't found ONE SINGLE therapist who has even been aware of CABF, much less their website, or their recommendations and they seem to be clueless about it all. Now, I ask you, if a dr told you your child had diabetes or asthma, wouldn't it be expected that they would mention the foundations for these illnesses and that they would mention that the recommendations listed with these agencies would be the well-known approaches to treatment? If they didn't mention the agencies, shouldn't you be able to expect that the dr's recommendations would be somewhat consistent with what is listed in the agencies' materials? I understand that child & adolescent bipolar hasn't been diagnosis'd for so long, on top of the issue about mental health not being an exact science. However, if you were a therapist stating to people that you could give therapy for this, am I expecting too much that the therapist would at least do a google search on the recommended treatment? I think it was Marg (I can't say for sure) giving a suggestion to a therapist issue thread in the WC who said it is an opportunity to educate the therapist. Yes, that's true, especially when therapist is an intern. And, I think I already educated him about why every issue should not be discussed openly between parent, child, and therapist when mood disorders are involved. At least he remembered that yesterday when the subject came up again- he said, so , that situation can open up a can of worms then you go home with a PO'd kid. Yep, well, look at this way, this might be a kid who is not in a rational state of mind and this might have opened up a can of worms, driven a wedge between parent and child so they go home, kid is a bakestcase, parent hasn't learned strategies to deal with it, parent has less communication with child because wedge has been driven between them, and needless to say, situation escalates to a worse level and parent isn't any happier than child is at that point. So, what should have been dealt with through therapuetic strategies has now turned into an acute situation. Got it? I showed him the printouts from CABF website- at first he acted like he didn't need to see them, then after his comment about things he said to a group of girls in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) (nothing sexual) to "get them on track" I realized that his technique would NEVER have worked with me, much less difficult child. So, I pulled out the page on recommended treatment and pointed to it and said "can you do this- where do I go to get this"? He looked and wrote some things down in his notes. This of course, tells me he has never seen it before. I don't know if he wrote the treatment suggestions down or the CABF website that was listed at the bottom of the page. All I know is that then he started saying that he couldn't guarantee that his help would prevent difficult child from ever becoming manic again (did I asked for that?) and that he understood that no one would ever be the expert on my child like I am. (What did that have to do with anything?) SIGH..... sorry- do you think there is a way to contact somebody from the CABF website and find out if there is a single therapist in this area that even looks at their material? He also said that ig difficult child became manic, I could call and talk to him. I told him I appreciated that but I already had a forum with several shoulders to cry on. I thought we needed to learn pro-active strategies to prevent what we could and learn how to de-escalate or otherwise manage things the times when mania happened anyway.