I'm going to ask a favor - I'm trying to win something and I've never entered a contest. But this is a need - not a want. You'll see why. I also need two favors. One - Help me pick a picture - Then vote for my ugly grill. Not only is it ugly - it's 15 years old, it was here when we got the house, and I think it's beyond salvaged, green, reused, attrocious. When DF suggests "OH lets grill out? I suggest broil." Here's the pictures I'm thinking of submitting and I hope I did this right (you know - the not techno savy board sister lol) http://photobucket.com/StarCasperPootieTarzan I need to know which is better or worse - lid open or lid closed and yes....that's a brick and rotted wood held on with washers and rusty bolts. Thank you so much - once I get the board choice of photos - I will let you know the contest place to vote, and if you would be so kind - PLEASE vote and let anyone else you know =vote. Like I said this is NOT a want....it's very much a need. I've never won a thing in my life - but a pkg of licorice at the grocery store and I think that was by accident -lol.