Hello all! I am glad to find this group. I am new here and have been reading through the threads and I feel as if I am walking in to meet my biological family after having been in an adopted for my entire life. This journey of motherhood for me has not been without its excitement. Really its been more like a tremendously exciting/frightening rollercoaster. There have been the normal ups and downs, and then there has been the unimaginable frightening drops that I never saw coming, with the mind jarring stops, and the occasional screams and tears. Followed by the exhiliration of completion and the desire to do it again...and again! My husband and I have 4 boys, 2 are difficult child in this sites sense. My oldest has been the most challenging and I am not sure that we (husband and I) can continue to do this alone though. We are at a very scary point as he is just about to be a teen ager and the ODD is really getting out of control. He is starting counseling again. To say the least I am skeptical. We have stopped with other therapists as he learned he could manipulate them by telling them how miserable his life is on punishment (grounded after fighting in school- led to a suspension or grounded after refusing to sit on the bus and screaming at the bus driver calling her every name you can think of leading to a permanent suspension from the bus when gas was near $4/gallon) and in both cases after a couple of days of being grounded they both undermined my husband and I and suggested (in front of him ) that he should serve one more day and be taken off punishment because he learned his lesson and that is the point of discipline. But faced with the same situation and same set of emotions he will make the same choice over and over again...forget the consequences. In that moment they mean nothing to him. This has been infuriating I was wondering if there are others out there like us that are or have dealt with the ODD bug and what strategies have worked, what has not....and what advice you can offer. Current diagnosis is ADHD/ODD and BiPolar (BP) he is on Concerta, Ritalin and Geodon. I have noticed little to no change since starting the geodon. Psychiatrist is weary about increasing the BiPolar (BP) medications. We have been going down this road for a while. He has an IEP, and has a psychiatrist and as I stated earlier starting therapy again. I know that this is winded...Unfortuneatley I am a wordy person!