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My name is Rachel and I stumbled upon this group after searching online for some sort of information to help me make my case to my son's pediatrician tomorrow that we need help!
I have been trying to get help from his Dr. since he was 2 years old but they keep telling me...its a phase, he will grow out of it. Every year now (he is almost 9) I bring up my son's behavioral issues with them, and every time they advise me to modify our discipline at home and hopefully that will modify his behavior. Well..I have had it. I am done doing as they say since it is not working...I am going to advocate for my son, but I need some help.
I am almost certain he, if I can get someone to listen, will be diagnosed with ODD. Absolutely every word that I have read about it pertains to my son..every word! We always joked that he would make a good attorney or because he will argue with you until you give in and agree with him! What was cute at 2 and 3 years old is not so cute now that he is almost 9 years old. I never once imagined that there was a <u>reason</u> for all of the arguments!
To back up a bit...
My son, as an infant had Complex Partial Seizures of which he outgrew by 1-1/2 years old. By age 3 was diagnosed with a speech delay and received therapy until he entered the 1st grade. It was about this age, we knew something was wrong. He was incredibly compulsive in his behavior. He would run around the house in circles for absolutely no reason. We felt for sure we were on our way to an ADHD diagnosis. This behavior stopped when he had his tonsils and adenoids out after being cronically sick for the first 3 yeras of his life. (they had treated him for allergies until they tested him at 3 years old and found he was not allergic to anything and sent us to ENT) He is basically a model student at school now (3rd grade), but this year started to become forgetful with his homework.
At home or anywhere else, he is a completely different child. He is and has been an extremely picky eater and will be so defiant about not eating ANYTHING that he would rather go to bed without dinner and throw up the next morning due to an empty stomach than settle for what is on his plate. He has never eaten a piece of fruit, a vegetable and only eats a few meats. Again..the pediatricans always said..kids go through phases with foods...yeah right, maybe that could fly when he was 2, not at almost 9! He is so rigid in everything in his life, right up to what he eats for lunch. He has eaten a peanut butter and honey sandwich EVERY DAY for 3 YEARS for lunch. That amazes just about everyone I have told haha!
As for behavior...he has walked out of restaurants by himself because he doesn't want to eat there. He cries and gets angry when we say we have to go to the store or are going out to eat (God forbid it be a fast food place!..huh?) He will argue with neighbors, family, parents, and even his friends until no one wants to talk to him anymore. It is very sad, but what is one to do..I certainly can not blame his friends for not wanting to play with a perpetual grump who always has to have his way! He has destroyed property of my neighbor and then told the neighbor he didn't do it, although the neighbor saw him do it. He argued so adamantly with the neighbor over this, the neighbor finally had to carry my son home to get things straightened out.
The last straw and my reason for setting up the appointment with the peditrician about this happened 2 days ago. My daughter came flying in the house screaming at the top of her lungs that my neighbor was mad at my son. I went to the door to see my neighbor (super nice, patient guy) yet again carrying my son home. Oh geesh here we go again, what now, I thought. My son had apparently been playing a game with other neighborhood kids in my next door neighbor's yard where they all pile on top of each other like a "kid sandwich" if you will. Well, neighbor's daughter ended up being on the bottom of the pile, with her little brother on top of her, and then my son who is older than the both of them at the top. Suddenly, the daughter screamed that she couldn't breathe, her mom came out told my son to get up, he was too big to be playing like that. He got up off of the kids, but then threw a nasty look at her with his fists bared at his side. Her husband came out at the time, saw this and tried to calmly talk to him and get him to understand why he can not do that...he weighs about 70 pounds and the others consideribly less. My son was having none of this and said some nasty comments to him and tried to spin away and walk off. Neighbor was having none of the attitude and tried to grab his coat and talk to him about this. He again yanked away, which is when my neighbor told me he though, "forget this" and hauled him home to me, which he did, my son hitting him on his back and kicking him the whole way (which is what I saw at my front door after my daughter came im). Neighbor was so upset over this obviously as he explained the above to me, but remained calm the entire time. He apologized for having to bring him home like that, but said that my son was just not going to deal with what he had done. (he felt he did nothing wrong at the time) We are VERY good friends with these people and I was so afraid that this was the final straw and our relationship now was in jeopardy because of the actions of my child! I explained that this has been going on for a long time (which he knew) and that we will get this taken care of now.
Here is where I need some advice. Besides the 4 pages of notes I have taken on examples of behavior, past medical issues I feel may be related somehow (seizures/speech delay/mild sound sensitivity to 6 years old), what exactly should I have in my arsenol to get these Doctors to FINALLY pay attention that this child needs some help and stop blaming the parents for what he is going through!
Incidentally...when I called my husband's EAP (employee assistance program) through his work to find out if I needed a referral through them to talk to a therapist, the licenced clinician asked me to tell her what was the problem. Since I only wanted to really know if I needed a referral, I only gave a VERY brief overview of what was going on. She immediately felt it was something we were doing at home, since he was not acting this way at school; and that maybe my husband and I needed to talk with a therapist to devise a plan of discipline at home that is similar to what is at school since what they are doing seems to be working for him. Geesh! Talk about a major blow to your confidence in the Assistance field.
Thank you for reading everything I had to post...I am terribly sorry this became so long. I look forward to any and all advice.
All the best,
Rachel
My name is Rachel and I stumbled upon this group after searching online for some sort of information to help me make my case to my son's pediatrician tomorrow that we need help!
I have been trying to get help from his Dr. since he was 2 years old but they keep telling me...its a phase, he will grow out of it. Every year now (he is almost 9) I bring up my son's behavioral issues with them, and every time they advise me to modify our discipline at home and hopefully that will modify his behavior. Well..I have had it. I am done doing as they say since it is not working...I am going to advocate for my son, but I need some help.
I am almost certain he, if I can get someone to listen, will be diagnosed with ODD. Absolutely every word that I have read about it pertains to my son..every word! We always joked that he would make a good attorney or because he will argue with you until you give in and agree with him! What was cute at 2 and 3 years old is not so cute now that he is almost 9 years old. I never once imagined that there was a <u>reason</u> for all of the arguments!
To back up a bit...
My son, as an infant had Complex Partial Seizures of which he outgrew by 1-1/2 years old. By age 3 was diagnosed with a speech delay and received therapy until he entered the 1st grade. It was about this age, we knew something was wrong. He was incredibly compulsive in his behavior. He would run around the house in circles for absolutely no reason. We felt for sure we were on our way to an ADHD diagnosis. This behavior stopped when he had his tonsils and adenoids out after being cronically sick for the first 3 yeras of his life. (they had treated him for allergies until they tested him at 3 years old and found he was not allergic to anything and sent us to ENT) He is basically a model student at school now (3rd grade), but this year started to become forgetful with his homework.
At home or anywhere else, he is a completely different child. He is and has been an extremely picky eater and will be so defiant about not eating ANYTHING that he would rather go to bed without dinner and throw up the next morning due to an empty stomach than settle for what is on his plate. He has never eaten a piece of fruit, a vegetable and only eats a few meats. Again..the pediatricans always said..kids go through phases with foods...yeah right, maybe that could fly when he was 2, not at almost 9! He is so rigid in everything in his life, right up to what he eats for lunch. He has eaten a peanut butter and honey sandwich EVERY DAY for 3 YEARS for lunch. That amazes just about everyone I have told haha!
As for behavior...he has walked out of restaurants by himself because he doesn't want to eat there. He cries and gets angry when we say we have to go to the store or are going out to eat (God forbid it be a fast food place!..huh?) He will argue with neighbors, family, parents, and even his friends until no one wants to talk to him anymore. It is very sad, but what is one to do..I certainly can not blame his friends for not wanting to play with a perpetual grump who always has to have his way! He has destroyed property of my neighbor and then told the neighbor he didn't do it, although the neighbor saw him do it. He argued so adamantly with the neighbor over this, the neighbor finally had to carry my son home to get things straightened out.
The last straw and my reason for setting up the appointment with the peditrician about this happened 2 days ago. My daughter came flying in the house screaming at the top of her lungs that my neighbor was mad at my son. I went to the door to see my neighbor (super nice, patient guy) yet again carrying my son home. Oh geesh here we go again, what now, I thought. My son had apparently been playing a game with other neighborhood kids in my next door neighbor's yard where they all pile on top of each other like a "kid sandwich" if you will. Well, neighbor's daughter ended up being on the bottom of the pile, with her little brother on top of her, and then my son who is older than the both of them at the top. Suddenly, the daughter screamed that she couldn't breathe, her mom came out told my son to get up, he was too big to be playing like that. He got up off of the kids, but then threw a nasty look at her with his fists bared at his side. Her husband came out at the time, saw this and tried to calmly talk to him and get him to understand why he can not do that...he weighs about 70 pounds and the others consideribly less. My son was having none of this and said some nasty comments to him and tried to spin away and walk off. Neighbor was having none of the attitude and tried to grab his coat and talk to him about this. He again yanked away, which is when my neighbor told me he though, "forget this" and hauled him home to me, which he did, my son hitting him on his back and kicking him the whole way (which is what I saw at my front door after my daughter came im). Neighbor was so upset over this obviously as he explained the above to me, but remained calm the entire time. He apologized for having to bring him home like that, but said that my son was just not going to deal with what he had done. (he felt he did nothing wrong at the time) We are VERY good friends with these people and I was so afraid that this was the final straw and our relationship now was in jeopardy because of the actions of my child! I explained that this has been going on for a long time (which he knew) and that we will get this taken care of now.
Here is where I need some advice. Besides the 4 pages of notes I have taken on examples of behavior, past medical issues I feel may be related somehow (seizures/speech delay/mild sound sensitivity to 6 years old), what exactly should I have in my arsenol to get these Doctors to FINALLY pay attention that this child needs some help and stop blaming the parents for what he is going through!
Incidentally...when I called my husband's EAP (employee assistance program) through his work to find out if I needed a referral through them to talk to a therapist, the licenced clinician asked me to tell her what was the problem. Since I only wanted to really know if I needed a referral, I only gave a VERY brief overview of what was going on. She immediately felt it was something we were doing at home, since he was not acting this way at school; and that maybe my husband and I needed to talk with a therapist to devise a plan of discipline at home that is similar to what is at school since what they are doing seems to be working for him. Geesh! Talk about a major blow to your confidence in the Assistance field.
Thank you for reading everything I had to post...I am terribly sorry this became so long. I look forward to any and all advice.
All the best,
Rachel