I am glad my post has helped you, Copa. Like I said, I am not the parent of an addict, so I do not have the same experiences you do. I share some experiences with the children of the parents on this forum. I post because I hope it is easier for you to handle your problems once you can truly understand theirs. If neither side has an appreciation for the suffering of the other, improvement is unlikely. Clearly, they must find it more difficult to understand you than for you to understand them. It also always bothers me when I read posts from members in which they feel either responsible, or not good enough. Some take it very personally, and it usually isn't. I mean, it is.... Personal TO them. Addicts can only truly care about one thing, their ability to get high. It isn't that they don't love or care about the people around them. Most intentionally ignore the pain we have to cause to maintain our habits. If you don't acknowledge it, you don't need to deal with it. But we can only ignore it while high. Forming a very viscous circle. The longer it goes on, the less hope we have about fixing ourselves, or making things right with others. We know what we do is wrong. We aren't ignorant or stupid. Every time we steal from you, we know it is wrong. Every time we lie to you, we know it is wrong. Every time we get behind the wheel in an inebriated state, we know it is wrong. But we lose our ability NOT to do these things. We destroy everything about ourselves in a futile effort not to feel feelings anymore. Another viscous circle.