Just got back from difficult child 2's therapist appointment. I am ticked off and trying to figure out if I heard what I think I heard from the therapist. Bear with me as I think out loud and let me know if I have gotten off track somewhere here.
So difficult child 2 has had 3 melt downs in the past week. He didn't start to de-escalate until we threatened to call police because difficult child 2 threatened to break things or hurt someone - all three times. One involved threatening to break stuff with a baseball bat OK?
Over the weekend I talked to therapist over the phone about the blow ups and he said - don't be shy about calling cops, don't do so much to help him de-escalate - difficult child 2 should just be expected to go calm down on his own when asked to do so, do the eggshell routine to some extent to try to avoid more melt downs. Don't know him real well yet, he's doing denial and ignoring in session but I'll see if we can work out something for him to call me when he's getting ready to melt down.
Ok, I think to myself, I can do that. I have no problem calling the cops on a kid who's threatening to break things with a baseball bat. I can take a step back and stop trying to divert and contain him and just go straight to cops when he doesn't stop as asked.
But what comes next? I say to myself. Do we let the cops talk to him and that's the end of it (assuming difficult child 2 calms down when cops get here - if they get here)? Do we have them take him to ER or local psychiatric hospital for psychiatric evaluation? And who decides? Us? psychiatrist? Cops? If he stays home after cops talk to him do we give him consequences for his behavior? What consequences?
So I leave therapist a message a good 3 hours before difficult child 2 appointment about these questions. I asked him to talk to difficult child 2 about the blow ups and calling the cops and what will happen next.
We get to appointment. I don't go into the sessions, just communicate with therapist outside of them through phone and e-mail messages.
Afterwards, therapist says - thanks for the e-mails, great keep them coming, great session today. I say - did you get my phone message (he told me the day of appts to leave him phone messages not e-mails)? He says no he hadn't checked his voice mail.
I say well I wanted to know what we are going to do if we call the cops - what comes next? psychiatric evaluation? what?
therapist smiles real big says - no we don't have a crazy kid here. He just needs to take a walk, work out some of that angry energy and then you can have a private talk with him and work things out.
I guess I looked incredulous because the therapist then says - you won't have to call the cops, he just needs to take a walk - as if to reassure me.
There is no time and no privacy to discuss this statement. therapist doesn't seem to think it requires any further discussion. So we leave.
All the way home (30 minute drive) I am getting madder and madder. Mad at the therapist and mad at difficult child 2.
So, I am thinking, we "don't have a crazy kid here". Just one who thinks it's OK to be abusive to his family??? One who just needs to be asked politely to take a walk???? OMG, if that's the case I am so angry with this kid I could spit. You can bet your bootie I am calling the cops the first time he threatens me or threatens to break stuff from here on out. No more Mr. Nice Mom.
As for the therapist, WTH? He goes from telling me (in previous conversations) that difficult child 2 probably shouldn't be in public school cause it's going to be too overwhelming for difficult child 2, that difficult child 2 probably needs therapeutic school setting, that difficult child 2 won't talk about what's going on in session - he goes from that to "just tell him to take a walk"?
Am I missing something here?
So I figure - OK - we can test this theory. I think what I heard today from therapist was that we should have "normal" expectations (normal for an almost 14 year old) for difficult child 2 around chores, school work, anger management , bathing, respect of parents, etc.
When difficult child 2 says "I won't and you can't make me" or "you do that and I'm going to take your computer and smash it" or whatever angry, defiant thing comes out of his mouth when he's flipping out we literally show him the door with the expectation that difficult child 2 will come back and make amends/do the task/whatever after taking a little walk.
Have I gotten it wrong somewhere here folks? Can you point to some error in my reasoning?
Somehow it feels like I just got handed a new, improved, subtle version of the "you just don't know how to handle this kid/you're no good at parenting" line handed to me?
Well, things are going to be very interesting around here the next few days, let me tell you.
I will be e-mailing therapist to let him know my interpretation of our brief conversation, in case I misunderstood something.
And I will be applying his advice forthwith.
Let the fireworks begin...
So difficult child 2 has had 3 melt downs in the past week. He didn't start to de-escalate until we threatened to call police because difficult child 2 threatened to break things or hurt someone - all three times. One involved threatening to break stuff with a baseball bat OK?
Over the weekend I talked to therapist over the phone about the blow ups and he said - don't be shy about calling cops, don't do so much to help him de-escalate - difficult child 2 should just be expected to go calm down on his own when asked to do so, do the eggshell routine to some extent to try to avoid more melt downs. Don't know him real well yet, he's doing denial and ignoring in session but I'll see if we can work out something for him to call me when he's getting ready to melt down.
Ok, I think to myself, I can do that. I have no problem calling the cops on a kid who's threatening to break things with a baseball bat. I can take a step back and stop trying to divert and contain him and just go straight to cops when he doesn't stop as asked.
But what comes next? I say to myself. Do we let the cops talk to him and that's the end of it (assuming difficult child 2 calms down when cops get here - if they get here)? Do we have them take him to ER or local psychiatric hospital for psychiatric evaluation? And who decides? Us? psychiatrist? Cops? If he stays home after cops talk to him do we give him consequences for his behavior? What consequences?
So I leave therapist a message a good 3 hours before difficult child 2 appointment about these questions. I asked him to talk to difficult child 2 about the blow ups and calling the cops and what will happen next.
We get to appointment. I don't go into the sessions, just communicate with therapist outside of them through phone and e-mail messages.
Afterwards, therapist says - thanks for the e-mails, great keep them coming, great session today. I say - did you get my phone message (he told me the day of appts to leave him phone messages not e-mails)? He says no he hadn't checked his voice mail.
I say well I wanted to know what we are going to do if we call the cops - what comes next? psychiatric evaluation? what?
therapist smiles real big says - no we don't have a crazy kid here. He just needs to take a walk, work out some of that angry energy and then you can have a private talk with him and work things out.
I guess I looked incredulous because the therapist then says - you won't have to call the cops, he just needs to take a walk - as if to reassure me.
There is no time and no privacy to discuss this statement. therapist doesn't seem to think it requires any further discussion. So we leave.
All the way home (30 minute drive) I am getting madder and madder. Mad at the therapist and mad at difficult child 2.
So, I am thinking, we "don't have a crazy kid here". Just one who thinks it's OK to be abusive to his family??? One who just needs to be asked politely to take a walk???? OMG, if that's the case I am so angry with this kid I could spit. You can bet your bootie I am calling the cops the first time he threatens me or threatens to break stuff from here on out. No more Mr. Nice Mom.
As for the therapist, WTH? He goes from telling me (in previous conversations) that difficult child 2 probably shouldn't be in public school cause it's going to be too overwhelming for difficult child 2, that difficult child 2 probably needs therapeutic school setting, that difficult child 2 won't talk about what's going on in session - he goes from that to "just tell him to take a walk"?
Am I missing something here?
So I figure - OK - we can test this theory. I think what I heard today from therapist was that we should have "normal" expectations (normal for an almost 14 year old) for difficult child 2 around chores, school work, anger management , bathing, respect of parents, etc.
When difficult child 2 says "I won't and you can't make me" or "you do that and I'm going to take your computer and smash it" or whatever angry, defiant thing comes out of his mouth when he's flipping out we literally show him the door with the expectation that difficult child 2 will come back and make amends/do the task/whatever after taking a little walk.
Have I gotten it wrong somewhere here folks? Can you point to some error in my reasoning?
Somehow it feels like I just got handed a new, improved, subtle version of the "you just don't know how to handle this kid/you're no good at parenting" line handed to me?
Well, things are going to be very interesting around here the next few days, let me tell you.
I will be e-mailing therapist to let him know my interpretation of our brief conversation, in case I misunderstood something.
And I will be applying his advice forthwith.
Let the fireworks begin...