Son & Grandson Failing to Thrive

John W

New Member
I Have a Son 50yrs/old
Grandson 22/yrs ols
We live 3000 miles apart
Thy are living on the streets
They Have Addiction Issues from Alcohol to Marijuana
Their Joint Pensions around $3000/mon
Usually asking me for Money 10 days after Pension Received
Sleeping in back of car on mountain road now
Grandson Owes for Drugs $4000. He has been threatened several time

They reject my suggestions
I'm Heartbroken
I realize it is up to them to make a change
Any advice for me
 

RN0441

100% better than I was but not at 100% yet
Obviously based on your son's age I'd think you have to be about 70 years old.

I'd let them know that you love them but not give them a dime.

I'd also be glad that they live so far away if this is how they choose to live their lives.

There IS help out there for those that want it.

It is very painful to not have our loved ones in our lives. I'd pray for them and take care of yourself.
 

AppleCori

Well-Known Member
Hi and welcome, John.

If you haven’t already done this, you can give them the numbers for social services in their area. Otherwise, there is nothing you can do.

Don’t give them any money. They will just use it for their drugs and alcohol.

Stay with us and post. It really helps.

Apple
 

John W

New Member
Obviously based on your son's age I'd think you have to be about 70 years old.

I'd let them know that you love them but not give them a dime.

I'd also be glad that they live so far away if this is how they choose to live their lives.

There IS help out there for those that want it.

It is very painful to not have our loved ones in our lives. I'd pray for them and take care of yourself.

Thank you
 

John W

New Member
Hi and welcome, John.

If you haven’t already done this, you can give them the numbers for social services in their area. Otherwise, there is nothing you can do.

Don’t give them any money. They will just use it for their drugs and alcohol.

Stay with us and post. It really helps.

Apple

I will stay connected for sure

Thank you
 

BusynMember

Well-Known Member
I am very sad your heart hurts but you need your money.

Your son is almost....a senior. At 55 he can get a senior coffee at many places. If he is using his money on drugs, as it seems he and Junior do,nthen both are old enough to get government services....food cards, food pantries, soup kitchens....they can certainly feed themselves. There are so many ways even where I live and it is not a big city at all. More rural yet we offer services and I think this is everywhere.

What are you sending money for? They can get Sec 8 or shelters and any cash you send goes to drugs.

You are not too old to go to Al Anon. It helps. Enjoy your golden years! God bless you.
 

John W

New Member
I am very sad your heart hurts but you need your money.

Your son is almost....a senior. At 55 he can get a senior coffee at many places. If he is using his money on drugs, as it seems he and Junior do,nthen both are old enough to get government services....food cards, food pantries, soup kitchens....they can certainly feed themselves. There are so many ways even where I live and it is not a big city at all. More rural yet we offer services and I think this is everywhere.

What are you sending money for? They can get Sec 8 or shelters and any cash you send goes to drugs.

You are not too old to go to Al Anon. It helps. Enjoy your golden years! God bless you.
I am very sad your heart hurts but you need your money.

Your son is almost....a senior. At 55 he can get a senior coffee at many places. If he is using his money on drugs, as it seems he and Junior do,nthen both are old enough to get government services....food cards, food pantries, soup kitchens....they can certainly feed themselves. There are so many ways even where I live and it is not a big city at all. More rural yet we offer services and I think this is everywhere.

What are you sending money for? They can get Sec 8 or shelters and any cash you send goes to drugs.
You are not too old to go to Al Anon. It helps. Enjoy your golden years! God bless you.


I no longer Send money
They get $1255 each every month from the government
They use the food back etc
They were asked to leave from their last apt, a condemned hotel. That was good thing, as there were other drug users in there. but they did not make an effort before to find another home


I am in Nova Scotia Canada the are in Britsh Columbia About 3000 MILES AWAY
 

Barbaro

New Member
I no longer Send money
They get $1255 each every month from the government
They use the food back etc
They were asked to leave from their last apt, a condemned hotel. That was good thing, as there were other drug users in there. but they did not make an effort before to find another home


I am in Nova Scotia Canada the are in Britsh Columbia About 3000 MILES AWAY
I don't know very much about the Canadian economy, but wouldn't their combined income be enough to rent someplace to live?
 

Blindsided

Face the Sun
Welcome, John. I agree with all here. My husband and I are from your generation. We stopped giving money and I started giving info on resources for middle aged alcoholic daughter who lives about 1600 miles from our home town. The article here in the emetris group on detachment is very helpful.

They have to want help. Money is not the answer. I have learned to accept I am not capable of giving our daughter the help she needs. It takes professionals and even then, our Difficult Child must want to do the work.

Keep us updated.
 

Triedntrue

Well-Known Member
My son is 37. He is bipolar and has troubles with drugs and alcohol. I have come to realize from counseling and this site that you can not help someone who is not willing to be helped. My son is in my city but right now is working in such a way that he is away for periods of time. He is threatening to quit i am close to 70 as well and know i can't help him. He knows where to go for medical assistance but uses it only when he thinks it will get him something or someone he wants. They have to want help for themselves you can encourage but not force. That is hard for us as parents no matter what the age of them or us. It sounds like they are dependent on each other which i am not sure is good for your grandson who is hopefully more able to change. Only you know if it would be best to encourage him to seek help for himself and leave his fathers influence. It might also encourage his father to hit bottom. You need to take care of yourself and try to live your life in ways that make you happy. Prayers.
 

Crayola13

Well-Known Member
I hope they both decide rent is more important than buying pot and liquor. I imagine marijuana is where most of their money goes.
 

WiseChoices

Well-Known Member
Have they ever admitted to having a problem and wanting help? In a moment of desperation when they reach out to you, you can suggest that there are people who will and can help them in Narcotics Anonymous or Alcoholics Anonymous.

The best thing you can do is to take care of yourself. Modeling responsible living, proper boundaries, and detachment with love. We didn't cause it, we can't control it , and we can't cure it.
 
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