I just got home and found a VM that concerns me- a person had called and left a message then didn't realize that they hadn't hung up the phone completely before going off on their kid. I didn't heear any beating or physical altercation but verbally, I am not sure if this qualifies as abuse or not. I was going to call cps and describe it to see if they thought it was worth checking into. Unfortunately with that type of vm, they can't hear the message themselves without coming to the house phone. But guess what- the flipping child abuse hotline (cps) for this area automatically switches to a busy signal so no one ever answers- no recording- no VM. I'm really trying to work on my attitude that has gotten so cynical about everything and most people but things like this aren't helping. Back to original issue- if a man is yelling to his kid that he's "going to 'git his butt whipped" over and over because the kid was disrespectful to his teacher and is referring to a missed or blank answer on a question of homework while yeslling "why" to the kid and the kid is whimpering (sounds between 8-10yo to me) and saying he couldn't remember how to do it and this goes on and on until the kid starts saying things like "i didn't pay attnention"; "I didn't do what I was supposed to do in class", "my work is sloppy", "I don't behave in school", etc, then finally the man is saying "that's right, that's right and you don't 'git your butt whipped' when you just say things like that to begin with" then my message time ran out. Is that verbal abuse or an issue cps should know about? Poor kid-I get that he might have needed a punishment if he was disrespectful to a teacher. But I worked hard to undo my son feeling that way about himself- the last thing a parent should do is threaten to spank if the child doesn't say those things about himself, in my humble opinion. Kid probably needs an IEP. I yelled at my son sometimes and I've said and done things I wish I hadn't in hindsight but I never went on and on like that man did with a whimpering elemntary school-age kid just belittleing himself because that's the only thing that would make me stop. But I don't know- maybe that's what my son needed to turn him around before it got to the point it did for him. I'm interested hearing others' opinions on this.