I'm about 99.9% sure that this will never amount to anything, but there's that 0.1% in the back of my mind. About two years ago my wife and I were awarded legal guardianship of our granddaughter. According to the research I did at the time, this is the highest level we can go to. Bio parents - mother is our difficult child daughter, father is her ex-b/f who dropped out of sight about 5 minutes after learning she was pregnant - have no legal say-so in any life decisions whatsoever. So I was drving difficult child to court the other day and she told me about a conversation with one of her counselors. This woman told difficult child that she could see her a year or two down the road living "with your girl, just the two of you" and working "in a hospital drawing blood". difficult child was unduly impressed because she says the other girls on her unit think this woman is a "prophet" (huh?! not comfortable with this!) and there was "no way she (the counselor) could have known" that difficult child had a little girl and had once earned a certificate in phlebotomy. (The counselor probably looked at difficult child's assessment interview record, I imagine.) Part of difficult child's problem with reality is that she has this fantasy of raising her daughter on her own, in spite of the fact that she can't handle her for more than an hour or two at a time. The fantasy resurfaces when she's been in recovery a month or two and is not usually very intense, as in something constantly in the front of her mind, but it's there in the back of her mind. Once in a while she has lashed out at us and accused us of "stealing" her girl. What bugs me is the thought of people encouraging this fantasy the way the counselor apparently did and of some busybody in the system (the center difficult child is at is a quasi-state run institution; it works closely with the courts) getting the idea that difficult child "needs" to have her daughter and deciding to take us to court or assist her or encourage her in taking us to court. I don't think we'd be vulnerable to having the guardianship revoked without cause but I've read horror stories. difficult child gave up her parental rights voluntarily. The judge had us leave the courtroom and interviewed her privately to make sure it was not done under duress. Am I right in thinking that guardianship is ironclad and irrevocable unless we are proved unfit? Should I dismiss that nagging 0.1% doubt?