Did I mention my dog is a Dingo?

Lothlorien

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She is so cute! She does look like the pictures of the dingos.

They told me my dog was shepherd mix too, but she's definitely not. She has the same color as your dog, but has a lot of black in her...some of her siblings were black, so I think that is the lab. My dog has floppy ears tho...not like the shepherd-like ears that dingos have.

Tesla really is a cutie and so sweet looking!
 

Steely

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Me too..............
Just a question - who would I ask about the care needed for these types of dogs? I guess the vet?
I already know the food I feed her is not right - it makes her gassy and have diarrhea - and that is what the vet recommended.
 

donna723

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Steely, one thing I wouldn't take a vet's advice on is dog food! They get next to no training on food and nutrition in vet school and what they do get is taught by reps from the brands of foods they sell in their offices. They recommend those because they're familiar with them and because they get a portion of the sales price back from the company. Those brands are a bit better than what you can buy in the grocery store but not much! There's a lot of much better brands of foods out there. You want to find a food that has meat as the main ingredient, no "by-products", no corn or wheat, no fillers (some even use sawdust!), and no artificial flavoring or colorings. Check this out:

www.dogfoodanalysis.com
 
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Marguerite

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Witz, that link words the possible connection rather carelessly.
reliminary mitochondrial DNA testing performed by the University of South Carolina's College of Science and Mathematics shows a possible strong genetic link between Carolina Dogs and other primitive breeds like the Australian Dingo..

"...and other primitive breeds LIKE the Australian dingo."
I'm also nervous of that link because its main purpose appears to be to promote someone's book on the subject. Not necessarily scientifically objective.

Wikipedia link seems to say that DNA testing is currently incomplete and inconclusive. Not that I am trying to protect the Aussie dingo from possible further mongrel status - "dingo" in Aussie lingo is a derogatory term! I'm just pushing for scientific accuracy and caution.

"Carolina dog" seems to be an accepted label for now for a type of wild-origin dog in the US which bears a physical resemblance in some ways to the Aussie dingo. Steely, your pup is gorgeous. But her eyes are wider than an Aussie dingo. Maybe because she's still a wide-eyed innocent? Sorry, just being flippant there. Seriously, even the pups usually have the narrower eyes. We always say it's to keep out the wind-borne desert dust. "Way out back o' Bourke where the crows fly backwards to keep the sand out of their eyes..."

Marg
 

witzend

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It seems to me that somewhere along the line there must be a generic or feral "dog". Maybe the Dingo and the Carolina are more alike in that than different.
 

Marguerite

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At the risk of triggering debate on evolution, scientific understanding on these topics is in a state of considerable flux. Ideas I was taught years ago have been overturned or modified. They used to believe that the evolution of man was a linear thing, from one species if primitive man to the next. They now believe that a number of these hominids were co-existing, possible interbreeding, but some died out and were dead ends.

Same with other species - ideas change. When I was at uni I wrote a major thesis on the history of domestication. Much of what was considered the view at the time was that domestic dogs evolved with selective breeding after an early connection between man and wolf, in Europe. It now appears that multiple connections were made between a number of different species of canid, and whichever variety/tribe of man was in the area at the time (Homo sapiens by then). All dogs would have common ancestors, but they have diverged and where land bridges sank, further divergence would have occurred in isolation. It's a fascinating topic (for me). So - multiple canid species with varying characteristics depending on the area they live, but with a common, probably vulpine, ancestor. The earliest connections between dog and man is still believed to have been in hunter-gatherer society especially in the days when there were giant mammals in the world. It would take a lot of effort for a man or even a group of men to drag home an entire Irish Elk or Woolly Mammoth, so they would have butchered the meat where it fell, piled the best bits in the hide (which had the foot bones still attached for easier dragging home) then left the rest. Packs of dogs would have soon learned to associate the sound of men hunting, with the chance of a feed when the men left. It would have taken little more for packs of dogs to begin speeding up the process by driving the prey to the hunters. They have found in caves, lots of foot bones of various animals, but not a lot of the rest of these animals. It's called the "schlepp" effect, from the German word schleppen, to drag. At least, that is what we were taught about it.

Interestingly on genetic divergence and natural selection, we observed it in action while we were away in the last couple of weeks. The introduced pest, Bufo marinus (cane toad) is on the move south. I used to handle these creatures in my job years ago; they were collected in north Queensland and trucked down to Sydney. The ones we had were grey (a sort of khaki colour), warty and stubby. But we went out catching cane toads in the gardens of the place we were staying in south of the Queensland border, and while they were clearly cane toads, they had longer legs and were a rusty brown in colour, exactly the same colour as the soil. Since people are actively trying to kill them when they find them, it stands to reason that the toads with best camouflage blend in to survive, while their khaki siblings get golf-clubbed back into Queensland. Also, they have found similarly in the toads reaching Kakadu (sadly - and a lot of Aussie mammals are dying out because of it) that the toads in the advance areas have longer legs. I also noted that these toads seemed a lot more cunning when it came to evading capture, than the blobs I used to handle. Again - the smart ones survive to pass their characteristics onto their offspring.

I hate toads... and managed to despatch almost a hundred while we were away. I put them in a bag and put them in a freezer. It's a more pleasant death for them, than their victims.

Marg
 
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