BusynMember
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I don't think this was about the emails. It certainly delighted Trump supporters. But doubt it changed many minds. It was very bizarre with Comey. But not a game changer in my opinion. Hillary shifters were so afraid of Trump, I don't think they switched.
I think that people where I live, who voted for Obama twice in the rust belt, were angry that there are still not a lot of jobs. Our main job producers, papermills, are going under. There is nothing to replace those jobs that once made our community financially secure. Our Wisconsin county went heavily for Trump. We are nice people. There is no Klan here. We don't abuse minorities or gays. People are seeing the quality of life going downhill. Thats why they went for Trump. I get it. I live in this area. Like many in this area, although I am liberal, I too get annoyed at the over educated elitists on both coasts who seem to think they are righteous.i Tourette's Syndrome easy to be righteous when you don't have to worry about money.
Big problem is most of those people in the media and the liberals in show business etc. make or have money (journalists included) so how can they possibly relate to somebody from the working class who has never been financially secure,? I always think those rich coastal elites look down on people like me. I know most people where I live feel that way. I understand the urgency to toss the Washington elites out by people like me, although I did unhappily vote for Hillary.
The rust belt is no longer loyal to the Dems. I have no idea how they will get them back. Most of us here don't care about the stock marke numbers...we don't have stock. We don't care about the percentage of working people. We are hard working, but the jobs available here are now largely restaurant and retail work so we work hard for little pay. The job numbers dont tell how many have
good jobs, just jobs.
The media thinks me and my working class cohorts are dummies and losers for not being rich or "enlightened" (although I do think ,*I* am rather world aware). Most here are not. Our woldview is way different from those who have high level jobs and lots of money. Now certainly Trump is rich, but he spoke to my neighbors who are tired of idealism that does not include them. And they did try. They tried Obama twice. But nothing got better for us.
We matter as much as those media elites who regularly dismiss my neighbors. Everybody is important. Even the white working class. And the working class of all races and ethnicities.
Houston, the Democrats have a problem!
I think that people where I live, who voted for Obama twice in the rust belt, were angry that there are still not a lot of jobs. Our main job producers, papermills, are going under. There is nothing to replace those jobs that once made our community financially secure. Our Wisconsin county went heavily for Trump. We are nice people. There is no Klan here. We don't abuse minorities or gays. People are seeing the quality of life going downhill. Thats why they went for Trump. I get it. I live in this area. Like many in this area, although I am liberal, I too get annoyed at the over educated elitists on both coasts who seem to think they are righteous.i Tourette's Syndrome easy to be righteous when you don't have to worry about money.
Big problem is most of those people in the media and the liberals in show business etc. make or have money (journalists included) so how can they possibly relate to somebody from the working class who has never been financially secure,? I always think those rich coastal elites look down on people like me. I know most people where I live feel that way. I understand the urgency to toss the Washington elites out by people like me, although I did unhappily vote for Hillary.
The rust belt is no longer loyal to the Dems. I have no idea how they will get them back. Most of us here don't care about the stock marke numbers...we don't have stock. We don't care about the percentage of working people. We are hard working, but the jobs available here are now largely restaurant and retail work so we work hard for little pay. The job numbers dont tell how many have
good jobs, just jobs.
The media thinks me and my working class cohorts are dummies and losers for not being rich or "enlightened" (although I do think ,*I* am rather world aware). Most here are not. Our woldview is way different from those who have high level jobs and lots of money. Now certainly Trump is rich, but he spoke to my neighbors who are tired of idealism that does not include them. And they did try. They tried Obama twice. But nothing got better for us.
We matter as much as those media elites who regularly dismiss my neighbors. Everybody is important. Even the white working class. And the working class of all races and ethnicities.
Houston, the Democrats have a problem!
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