I just got back from a numbing seven-hour drive through the Alleghenies to get difficult child to his probation processing. On the whole it went well. difficult child was horrified to learn that he has to pay $600 in fines and court costs (and probation costs - they charge $40/month to the 'client', which I think is a great idea). He came out of the session with the costs and fines office fuming, saying this would take all his money, that he'll never save enough to move out etc. Then it came out that they've set it up for him to pay $50/month for a year, when his probation's only six months. Pretty good deal! I pointed out he'd have no problem saving, with only having to pay $50/month. He was obviously hoping I'd shell out for the fees but no dice. I was SO stupid last year, paying his underage drinking fines and telling him he could pay me back. No more. difficult child is going on again about how awful his life is, how terrible husband is to him etc. husband IS depressed, angry, and irritable after his MI and being put on total activity restriction. difficult child says husband called him fat this morning, before we left ... that could mean anything from husband literally saying 'you're fat' to husband asking difficult child not to use four or five eggs in his breakfast, so that the others could have some eggs ... everything gets twisted when difficult child reports it. I know husband is very fed up with difficult child's thoughtlessness (reconfiguring the home network so he could play WoW all night and then leaving everyone else with no internet this morning, for example) and slobbish habits (sleeping in, taking an hour to 'get ready' to help me with the outdoor Christmas lights, then coming upstairs in pajamas, a bathrobe, and a leather jacket when the lights were all finished). So they're at each other again hammer and tongs. I just tell difficult child to save his money and move out if he doesn't like it here.