Hi there another newbie

Discussion in 'General Parenting' started by pagankat, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. pagankat

    pagankat Guest

    I just found this site while searching for molasses recipies, as ive heard that black strap molasses is very efficient in calming down volatile children.

    I will post more in the next few days when wmd (weapon of mass destruction) is calmer and leaves me alone long enough lol.. hes 7, and delicious and loving and the most beautiful boy I could have asked for.. but he came with a mission and im yet to figure out how to help him achieve that without us all losing our sanity.

    I am chosing not to medicate him as I dont feel the doctors have a clue.. they wont spend any time with him and whip out their prescription pads within 10 minutes of us arriving in their offices.

    My main question at this point is why cant I reply to or post on certain boards?

    There have been a few posts that I would like to have commented on, but apparantly I dont have permission.

  2. slsh

    slsh member since 1999

    Hi pagankat and welcome! I am sitting here just grinning - wmd indeed. :rofl: Too funny and too familiar.

    I believe you can go ahead and post/respond to threads. Your posts may be a bit delayed at first, but they will show up.

    Again, welcome - glad you found us!
  3. Marguerite

    Marguerite Active Member

    Welcome, from someone just over the ditch from you.

    Concerning medications - sometimes they can be a good idea. But I understand you're wanting doctors to be sure, and not just prescribing because it's the easy option.

    Can you tell us more about WMD's early development? Does he just seem ADHD or are there more issues, do you think? How are you handling things for now?

  4. HaoZi

    HaoZi Guest

    I'd be interested to know if the molasses works and how I could get kiddo to eat it if it does.
  5. Marguerite

    Marguerite Active Member

    Here in Australia most of our sugar is made from sugar cane. a by-product we use a lot here is golden syrup. I do know molasses; my dad used to keep it to feed a spoonful to the goats as a tonic. I remember watching him take a spoonful too, in between the goats having a turn. He could never entice me to try it. But then, he WAS using the same spoon he used for the goats!

  6. susiestar

    susiestar Roll With It

    Welcome!! My fifth grade math book had the best recipe for gingersnaps I have ever found - it was the first time I ever used molasses in cooking. The entire class was shocked when I brought in cookies that I made using the recipe in the math book - even the teacher didn't realize it was an actual recipe rather than just something put there so we could do fraction problems, lol! I never did think she had much rattling up between her ears, of course I didn't have much respect for any of my teachers - that was the year I didn't speak to them because I thought they were idiots. even the info about using the recipe was given on a note with the cookies. I was a bit of a difficult child myself, though I followed the rules and got good grades. I just did the things no one thought to tell me not to do - and I have a daughter just like that!

    WMD sounds like a neat kid, as most of ours are. What kinds of problems are you having with him? What are the docs saying after their 10 min evaluations?
  7. LittleDudesMom

    LittleDudesMom Well-Known Member Staff Member


    I kept my difficult child off medications for about 15 or 18 months after his initial diagnosis. But, different from your situation, I wanted to try some other natural options like diet and behavior mod rather than being leery of docs bearing rx pads!

    You used plural for docs so I wondering if there has been any consensus in diagnosis or medication recommendation? What do they think is going on? What do you feel in your gut is going on?

  8. SomewhereOutThere

    SomewhereOutThere Well-Known Member

    Hi there and welcome to the board :)
    Most of us are from the US, so we're not familiar with how things are done in New Zealand. Do you have access to NeuroPsychs for evaluations? If not, how can you get your child diagnosed? My first suggestion would be a total evaluation.
  9. Marguerite

    Marguerite Active Member

    MidWestMom, New Zealand's health care system is very similar to Australia's. In fact, our countries are so close in so many ways that when we visited NZ, we were covered under their health system, just as they are when they visit Australia.

    Pagankat, have you had a neuropsychologist assessment done? It should be possible for you but it can be expensive. I'm not sure if your health system has mental care plans (which we have un Australia) which makes it more possible to get services such as psychologists, chiropractors etc covered under Medicare. If you have private health insurance you should be able to get some rebate back for a neuropsychologist, plus you should be able to claim anything more on your taxes.

    A neuropsychologist assessment is like IQ testing plus. Schools do it too, but generally not in anywhere near enough detail. School IQ testing will give you a fairly rough idea of where the child is doing well and where not so well. When the child is fairly young, the testing is more limited. Also if the child has learning problems in any way, the testing is likely to not be accurate. However, low results in some areas and not in others can pinpoint areas of concern and show where the child could benefit from added assistance. Never accept an IQ score as set in stone; especially if you have a difficult child. Also, when the sub-scores in the IQ test (there are a lot of little tests within one larger IQ test) show large differences between scores, then the results should not be averaged out to give you one single IQ number. The low scores in such a case are usually an underestimate due to the child's learning problems. These large gaps are a signpost to the disability, but in the hands of (often school) inexperts, not only do these get missed, but higher scores in the rest of the sub-tests can mask the low scores, and this is why school testing can so often misdiagnose a gifted but learning-disabled child as "not doing so badly after all, when you consider he's not as smart as you thought."

    A gifted but learning disabled child will be far more frustrated in so many ways and also needs stimulation plus remedial assistance. But being missed on both counts can lead to a lot more problems.

    If your child has already been tested at school, you can get the school sub-score results sent to a neuropsychologist of your choice, for more detailed testing. That way there is no need to repeat the basic tests, but any areas of interest can be studied in more detail by the private expert. It does cost, but it is worth it because it gives a detailed snapshot of how the child is coping in a lot of ways.

    If finances are an issue, see if you can get a referral to a specialist clinic at a major hospital near you. It can take a lot longer, we had to wait about 18 months which can seem a lifetime when you're desperate for answers and help for your child. But for us, even though it's 12 years after difficult child 3's first neuropsychologist assessment, it was such a good multidisciplinary assessment that it is still referred to for an accurate picture of how he presented across the range when he was 4 years old.

    I don't know which of your major cities would have the services you need; my guess is, pretty much all of them could do it. But thorough assessment in a number of areas, including speech (even if his speech is normal - this needs to be formally confirmed and sometimes there can be subtle issues in the fine detail), psychology, pediatrics, occupational therapy - all have something to offer in terms of expertise in leading to a diagnosis. Whether or not to medicate is not their issue, their main aim is to assess. Medication is always your choice, in the long run.