RE ---- Love this! True, true, true! Nature says, "Move on". Only our obtuse human mind insists on staying stuck in neutral..... "out of time" (the present). We so often tend to either relieve the past even ad nauseum or conjure up all sorts of worry about the future. I've done both. And, like you, do not care for it one bit!let's say a deer is attacked by a tiger......the tiger has it in his jaws, and then miraculously the deer escapes. The deer has just been in fight or flight, his adrenals are wildly pumping........he runs in to the meadow and shakes it off. And then continues his life.
RE --- Thank you for sharing your "story" of your "story". I understand. It can be quite a process of awakening and reawakening.The pain left long ago, but the suffering, well, that became my story.
Agreed! I so enjoy your thought- and heart-process!I believe we have more power over how we perceive things and how we feel about them.
I like that a lot."To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Nietzsche.
Yes! That's closer to what I was originally thinking and far more eloquent (hey, it's Nietzsche). I'm also a big fan of "Man's Search For Meaning" (Victor Frankl). Also, thinking perhaps a more accurate word for my thought would be "struggle" not "suffer"."To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Nietzsche.
To the point that is true (in fact people in many African countries report they are happier than people in many developed countries), but there is also the breaking point after which that is not true. When you are constantly in huge physical pain due for example illness, when you are literally starving, when you are tortured, when you live in constant fear (for example because of living in war zone or under terror), no, it is not about the state of mind any more. And unfortunately many people around the world have to live in those conditions.So suffering is a state of mind, not something you HAVE to endure. At least, I don't feel it is. I am not discounting your point of view, which was valid and a good one.
I thought you were. And I was coming more from the whole spectrum of fates people can have, angle. Partly because I was just yesterday watching this document about rehabilitation of tortured people in my country (apparently shockingly high percentage of, especially male, refugees we take in, have been victims of torture before coming here) and also effects it does have for also every day life also in future and after getting safe. And because today I talked with a friend, who has suffered very treatment resistant rheumatic disease over a decade now. She is again getting better after one more pneumonia (which her biologic drugs cause and because of which the drugs have to be taken break from, which causes her high grade pain, makes her disabled and makes it almost impossible to sleep.) And well, it sucks to be her. And I'm darn lucky one in so many ways.You are right that I was talking more about the ins and outs of daily life.
HLM, I am also a fan of Victor Frankl. I read Man's Search for meaning when I was quite young, in my early twenties, and it had a lasting impression on me. The fact that he was in a concentration camp and lost his entire family and chose to respond very differently, was at that time in my life, a revelation. I think that book set the stage for me to begin to look at life in a different way, in particular about how we suffer. It had never occurred to me that we had a choice in it.I'm also a big fan of "Man's Search For Me
I have that kind of personality too MWM, my mind can be like a steel trap when it comes to thinking and feeling. It's taken me most of my life to learn that "I don't have to believe everything I think!" Once I began to realize that I had a choice, I began to figure out that if I could 'think' my way IN to a funk, I could 'think' my way OUT too.Well, I START to suffer...lol...then say "STOP!" out loud and use distraction, which is an awesome coping mechanism to get my mind off of what I'm suffering over. By the time I've watched the great movie or read the wonderful book or exercised for an hour, my mindset is ALWAYS better. I have the kind of persoanlity that can get into quite a funk if I allow it. But only I can allow it. And only I can do what helps to get out of i
Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional"
“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”
“Forces beyond your control can take away everything you possess except one thing, your freedom to choose how you will respond to the situation.”