We've been wondering how difficult child 2 (23 y.o.) has been funding his education at a community college in New England. This AM he told me that he got a loan after he told them that he hadn't spoken with us or seen us since he was 18. I questionned him about living this lie and he said "you know I've been a liar for years". We never abandoned this son, not even after he reported me to CPS, not even after he ran from home and told us all to go to Hell, slandered us all over a small town. We tried and tried to get him to come back into the family. These are not our values. He wasn't raised this way. We adopted him, loved and cherished him, tried to teach him right from wrong. I feel sorry that his fiancée knows that they are building their relationship on a lie. Does she really believe the lies will stop here?